Global pool league - could it save pool?

Push&Pool

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Every other thread today is about how pool's losing popularity and how the game might die out. Here's an idea which might slow down or prevent the downfall of this sport...

What we need is an international league system. A single world competition where every single person on Earth could compete if they pay a small fee annually. Something like that needs to be under WPA and noone else. The world needs to be divided in regions, so that every small or medium-sized town is a single region, while large cities should consist of multiple regions. Depending on where you live, once you enroll in the league, you compete among the players of your region. There should be both single and team competitions. Every player/team plays randomly with others. You earn points by winning a match. After the lond initial phase, top 3 players/teams should enter the interregional competition (held separately in every state/coutry). At this phase the elimination system begins. Winner of every interregional goes into the continental, and finally the world competition. By placing on a high position in any phase of the competition players would earn money rewards and stuff like free cues, pool books etc. While pretty much only pros would reach the continental phase, everything below would be within reach of ordinary players and amateurs. Last few phases would undoubtly attract some media attention.

The competitions could be held in every place with a 7' or larger table: pool halls, bars, even private house rooms. If the table's size is adequate, they would get a WPA certificate which would allow them to hold the competitions. To make things more challenging for the players and interesting to the crowd, every room would post their own local house rules which would be used in those league matches. In every region players would move from one room to another to play different opponents. Of course, the rooms would have to make their own cues available to players who don't have their own. The owners of each would earn a certain amount of profit (plus they would sell food and drink to the crowd). WPA should give a certificate to every one of those rooms in which they would agree to lower the prices a little on league matches. Lower prices means more customers, more customers mean bigger audience, bigger audience makes fun nights and more people interested in playing pool, which ultimately leads to the increase of the number of pool players globally. Even those players who would never get past phase one could fight for some rewards, plus they would have a lot of fun playing with and against the people they know, while potentially bringing some of their friends in the audience.

Events like that, organized in the whole world, could be a significant step in regaining pool's popularity. It would both bring together the players and other people in every town and promote pool among the masses, and affect the global pool situation.
 
I get the feeling people are going to bash you for this.

Maybe, just maybe.

The real issue is with using "local" rules. An organized league needs to use one set of rules.

Imagine the sandbagging here, people cheat to go to Vegas, what will people do to go to a World championship?

I'm sure this is not the first time someone wanted to do a multi country league, there are very very few new ideas. People can probably find posts on here from a few years ago talking about the same thing.

Saying that "someone should do this" means nothing unless you go out and start doing it yourself. Then you'll see how viable it is or what it takes to get it done. Contact WPA see what they say.
 
I think Billiards and Beans will be the true savior of pool.

;)

I second that... throw in a celebrity, some pool shoes, and a flim-flam infomercial man and we are all set. Oh wait...and a million dollar contract for each of the 200 best pool players in the world.
 
It's not that a global league is a terrible idea, any idea to get players together into one giant tour/league
instead of a bunch of small ones is a nice thought.

It's just that pool doesn't have anyone with the money and competence and work ethic
to make it happen.

I dunno if it's true in all countries but at least in the USA, there's 0 chance
of all these large independent entities deciding to join up into one giant corporation.
The APA and BCA and TAP each have their own idea of how things should run and
have no urge to merge. And if we can't get everyone to play nice in one country,
good luck getting 50 others to follow suit.

You need a huge bankroll to start... thousands of plane tickets to regional, national, and finally international events,
prize money and promotional items, possibly the outright purchase of an entire organization like the APA
just to get the ball rolling. Pool is a tough sell, who has that level of cash and is willing to gamble
millions on trying to make it work?
 
It's not that a global league is a terrible idea, any idea to get players together into one giant tour/league
instead of a bunch of small ones is a nice thought.

It's just that pool doesn't have anyone with the money and competence and work ethic
to make it happen.

I dunno if it's true in all countries but at least in the USA, there's 0 chance
of all these large independent entities deciding to join up into one giant corporation.
The APA and BCA and TAP each have their own idea of how things should run and
have no urge to merge. And if we can't get everyone to play nice in one country,
good luck getting 50 others to follow suit.

You need a huge bankroll to start... thousands of plane tickets to regional, national, and finally international events,
prize money and promotional items, possibly the outright purchase of an entire organization like the APA
just to get the ball rolling. Pool is a tough sell, who has that level of cash and is willing to gamble
millions on trying to make it work?

Not saying it's possible right away. Just saying it could be a good idea. However, nobody needs to merge. Local organizations could remain, and the new one could be created from the start.

If it were possible, it would already exist. Kind of like a viable flying car or hover board.

Search it up, we have those things.
 
Global Pool League

I will offer up the same statement I posted over two years ago when I first heard of Bonus Ball.

"It is a gimmick. It will not work."

Over 20 years ago people were working on getting Pool into the Olympics. There is your World Pool League with the WPA/WCBS and IOC as the "Governing Body". How is that doing?

Professional Pool in the U.S. is all but dead in name only.

The concept of a Global Pool League is another gimmick and waste of time.

cajunfats
 
I will offer up the same statement I posted over two years ago when I first heard of Bonus Ball.

"It is a gimmick. It will not work."

Over 20 years ago people were working on getting Pool into the Olympics. There is your World Pool League with the WPA/WCBS and IOC as the "Governing Body". How is that doing?

Professional Pool in the U.S. is all but dead in name only.

The concept of a Global Pool League is another gimmick and waste of time.

cajunfats

Do you have a better idea? Does anyone have at least some concept how pool could be saved? A hollywood sport-themed blockbuster with a pool player as the main hero? A high-end video game? Some sort of reality show? Anything?
 
First off, who said pool needed to be saved. And, saved from what, other than a world-wide recession that is acting more like a depression?
Fix the economy, create jobs, and you'll see pool players crawling out of the woodwork.
A global league. Good grief!
 
Ideas are everywhere,

Do you have a better idea? Does anyone have at least some concept how pool could be saved? A hollywood sport-themed blockbuster with a pool player as the main hero? A high-end video game? Some sort of reality show? Anything?
Ideas that will work are scarce. As Tramp and others have noted, the economy plays a large role in the ups and downs of the pool business. It has been in this cycle since the late 50's.

I hope that my reply did not come across flippantly. I merely answered your question directly. It was an honest answer based on years of involvement in the pool world.

To the question of whether I have a better idea, I would say "No, I have a different idea."

Will it save pool? No. Pool doesn't need saving, it merely needs better structure.

There are numerous threads in the archives that I think would help you see where many people are working towards different areas to help develop pool around the U.S. Their efforts are keeping pool active and entertaining.

I worked at the Billiard Congress back in the mid-90's, and saw firsthand what happens to ideas and programs at the top of the billiard mountain. I have also played in the German Pool League, so I have seen what international organizations do to develop pool for their players. Yes, I've even worked behind the counter at a few pool rooms and handed out balls. Tournaments, Instruction, and all those things too.

Hang in there, keep your chin up, and keep thinking of new ideas. I know you'll hit a few that will really make a difference. Because you posted, it shows you have what it takes to be a contributor to pool. Thank You for posting.

cajunfats
 
Pool does need organizing. I don't know about "saving" it. Two of the biggest concerns with something like this would be a game that was popular enough to appeal to all levels of players and a way to handicap it so that all levels would be competitive. And, if you think there is a game now in existence that meets those two criteria, you'd be dead wrong because they've all been tried. I was involved in something that got started through Pool and Billiard Magazine that was similar to 6 Pocket, if I remember correctly. I was the local rep and recruited players and sent in scores, etc. It was on a national level. Only lasted a few months, seemed it was too hard for lower level players and too easy for higher level players. You also need someone, not a player, to run something like this, the pro players, at least, have a bad habit of shooting themselves in the foot over and over and over again.
I doubt anything like this could be done while including pro players. Very hard to handicap pool in a situation like this that will appeal to everyone.
 
First off, who said pool needed to be saved. And, saved from what, other than a world-wide recession that is acting more like a depression?
Fix the economy, create jobs, and you'll see pool players crawling out of the woodwork.
A global league. Good grief!

Tramp,
I agree with the second part of what you are saying but possibly not the first.

I think that pool could undergo some changes that would help it in popularity where things are.

I think individualized competition isn't it right now. I like the idea of Teams. Like partners games, handicapped of course to some extent. I think the word.....Action...does not have to mean money play. Action could be more happenings and exciting things such at one team against another is .....Action.

I liked the team concept of Bonus Ball but that's all I liked about it.

If someone would take the team concept and get things going around that for maybe a regional tour, competition between rooms there might be some value in it. For now we have existing players in the pool league system to tap into to create more interest and that is about it.

No new exposure isnt happening and that needs to change.

Find someone and introduce them to pool. That would be a big help to pool. Places are getting farther apart where you can play and that's just a sad fact.
 
Tramp,
I agree with the second part of what you are saying but possibly not the first.

I think that pool could undergo some changes that would help it in popularity where things are.

I think individualized competition isn't it right now. I like the idea of Teams. Like partners games, handicapped of course to some extent. I think the word.....Action...does not have to mean money play. Action could be more happenings and exciting things such at one team against another is .....Action.

I liked the team concept of Bonus Ball but that's all I liked about it.

If someone would take the team concept and get things going around that for maybe a regional tour, competition between rooms there might be some value in it. For now we have existing players in the pool league system to tap into to create more interest and that is about it.

No new exposure isnt happening and that needs to change.

Find someone and introduce them to pool. That would be a big help to pool. Places are getting farther apart where you can play and that's just a sad fact.

First, I want to say I agree with the part about economy. But this is a problem of its own. Pool only business is going down, and that's why I think bars, restaurants and other places with pool tables should come more into play. A competition in our neighborhoods, in places we regularly visit, with games and rules we're used to, could attract more players. It doesn't have to be a single global competition, but it should be organized globally.
 
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