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Gold Crown II and DJ Billiards
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Scheffs1956,
Thanks for the compliment.
I started with a belt sander and 80 grit, careful to keep the castings shape. Then worked my way down to 1500 (100, 220, 400, 600, 1000) before using a course and then fine buffing wheel. At the time I had a compressor and body shop sanders, so very little by hand. Still took about three weeks. Castings were rough to say the least.
I used Eastwood polishing supplies, which are solid. You just hold them on the buffing wheel while it is turning.
The stain is The Original Master's Magic, super-penetrating NGR stain, NG1503 Brown Red Mahogany.
I attached a couple of before/afters.
Mike
Scheffs1956,
Thanks for the compliment.
I started with a belt sander and 80 grit, careful to keep the castings shape. Then worked my way down to 1500 (100, 220, 400, 600, 1000) before using a course and then fine buffing wheel. At the time I had a compressor and body shop sanders, so very little by hand. Still took about three weeks. Castings were rough to say the least.
I used Eastwood polishing supplies, which are solid. You just hold them on the buffing wheel while it is turning.
The stain is The Original Master's Magic, super-penetrating NGR stain, NG1503 Brown Red Mahogany.
I attached a couple of before/afters.
Mike
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GC1s had both name plates! It started out for the first couple of years with the plastic name plate, but then switched over to the metal name plate.
I don't know how .any times I've said this already, but I'll say it one more time. The ONLY difference between a GC1 & 2, is that the 2 was ONLY offered in a rosewood paint stained finish, had bronze coated leg levelers, and a bronze coated ball tray trim, that's it. Every other change that people like to think identifies a 2, came out in the GC1 first. So to tally it up, a GC2 is in fact, with the exception of the rosewood paint stained finish, bronze feet and ball tray trim......a GC1!!!
'Cobra what i find unusual/amazing is that Brunswick themselves kept(or not!) such bad records. You call them about stuff like this and you can almost see the deer-in-the-headlights look over the phone. All they are now is assemblers. The people there are pretty much clueless about anything that happened more than 5yrs ago.
That's because anyone that would know anything are either retired by now, or dead, I just happen to still be standing
An original GC2 had bronze coated leg levelers and metal ball tray trim.
I believe they had many old records destroyed in a fire - maybe 60s/70s - not sure. Not much computer action then, most records would have been paper or microfilm. I was told this back in the late 70s when I bought my first GC and began seaching for parts, manuals and records contacting Brunswick directly.
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Didn't read any threads. But I always thought the GC II's also, had the original GC I ball counters.
They sure do, in the 3's they changed them, as well as designing the rail skirts to be bolted on.
Well, now that I've seen enough pictures posted by you, here's the bad news, that's not a GC2! Take a look at the feet you have all nice and shinny now, looking like chrome. Do you see that little hole coming out of the top of the foot, where you bolt the leg through with a small lag bolt? Those were the GC1 non-adjustable feet that only came out on GC1's between 61'-63'. After 63' all the GC1 feet were adjustable, and mounted on a 3/4" threaded stud which was threaded through the foot, and into a collar mounted in the base of the pedestals where both feet threaded into.
Do you see how much each foot.is sticking out past the base edge of the pedestals? Every one is the same be cause they're not adjustable, which means they offer no assistance in leveling the frame of the table, so the frame leveling had to be done either between the frame carriage and the pedestals, or under the feet of the table. The 3rd way would be to leave the frame unlevel, and level the slates by suspending them above the frame carriage which won'tast to long, before wedged start falling out, and it sounds like the balls are rolling across a drum.
Did you see them level the table? I'd certainly question the skills of the mechanics if the don't know the difference between a GC1 and a GC2!!!
Gcii - gc i
There were a number of tables that came out of a Chicago poolroom, and I was able to look at all of them, and pick the one I wanted. I actually spoke with Brunswick about this table because as far as I can tell it was never painted, (GCI) but didn't have the adjustable feet. What they told me is in the changeover from I to II I could have gotten GCI feet on a GCII table.
Regardless, it doesn't matter to me whether it is a GCI or II, it's a fantastic table. Since Don and crew set it up in Texas, I moved back to Florida and had it re-installed. Those mechanics also thought it was a GCI because of the feet.
Don and crew did the best job assembling and covering the table. The guys here were sort of in a hurry. Switched to Simonis 760 this time, like that better. If you are ever in Florida, I'd love to have you set up the table!
As for the cure rack, I don't know if it is a GCII or III, but found it at Classic Billiards about 15 years ago.
There were a number of tables that came out of a Chicago poolroom, and I was able to look at all of them, and pick the one I wanted. I actually spoke with Brunswick about this table because as far as I can tell it was never painted, (GCI) but didn't have the adjustable feet. What they told me is in the changeover from I to II I could have gotten GCI feet on a GCII table.
Regardless, it doesn't matter to me whether it is a GCI or II, it's a fantastic table. Since Don and crew set it up in Texas, I moved back to Florida and had it re-installed. Those mechanics also thought it was a GCI because of the feet.
Don and crew did the best job assembling and covering the table. The guys here were sort of in a hurry. Switched to Simonis 760 this time, like that better. If you are ever in Florida, I'd love to have you set up the table!
As for the cure rack, I don't know if it is a GCII or III, but found it at Classic Billiards about 15 years ago.
The CG2 ball tray metal trim on a 2 was bronze plated as were the adjustable feet. My guess is the table was painted at one time, then refinished look like a GC2, but those pedestals that had the non-adjustable feet were always painted white no matter what the skirts were painted. The rails could have been bought as a GC2 upgrade for the rails, but the pedestals would have still been painted white, which is what leads me to believe the rails were refinished at the same time as the pedestals were.