Gold Crown Vs. Diamond Pro
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I prefer the pocket cut on the Diamonds over the GC's. Tight but fair.
I must say that I am really getting to like the way the Olhausen Championship 9' plays. I play on that and on an older Diamond. They are both excellent tables. I am not that fond of the shelfs on Gold Crowns, too small IMO but they still play well.
Eric.
Eric.
I have a Gold Crown II (refinished) that I will gladly trade anyone straight across for a Diamond.
EDIT: The reasons
No Metal Corners
No Raised Corners or Rubber Pocket Edges to shoot over and leave black marks on your shaft.
No Edges between the Metal Corners and Rail.
Real Wood Rails vs. whatever the fake rail top is on GC.
Overall Looks of The Diamond
Thats about it.....
EDIT: The reasons
No Metal Corners
No Raised Corners or Rubber Pocket Edges to shoot over and leave black marks on your shaft.
No Edges between the Metal Corners and Rail.
Real Wood Rails vs. whatever the fake rail top is on GC.
Overall Looks of The Diamond
Thats about it.....
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Unfortunately, there's no clubs anywhere in Northern Ireland, in the Rep Of Ireland, or most of the UK for that matter, that has any Diamond tables, because of the price tag, shipping costs and tax duty, but the room I play in, Club 9, has got 4x GC4's, from previous WPC events, that were held in in Cardiff, Wales, UK, one of which, is the table, that Fong Pang Chao won the 2000 WPC against Ismael Paez (Unsure of exact spelling), and they still have the double facings, and are regularly reclothed in simonis 860 (Powder Blue) and they are very sweet to play on indeed 
I have also played on the Brunswick Centurion (Whilst at the 2003 WPC, Cardiff, Wales, it was one of the public use tables) which is also a very sweet table and I would love to have one of them, because I love how Brunswick tables play, and also because I prefer the flat rail top, compared to the the standard curved rails, like on most commercial/tournament style tables now
If given the oppertunity though, I would love to try a Diamond Pro with the 4" pockets, particularly for straight pool, bank pool and one pocket
In the mean time though, untill I'm lucky enough to make it to the US Open or the DCC, then my choice is a either a Brunswick GC4 or Centurion, and if I had to choose either one, it would be the centurion
Willie
I have also played on the Brunswick Centurion (Whilst at the 2003 WPC, Cardiff, Wales, it was one of the public use tables) which is also a very sweet table and I would love to have one of them, because I love how Brunswick tables play, and also because I prefer the flat rail top, compared to the the standard curved rails, like on most commercial/tournament style tables now
If given the oppertunity though, I would love to try a Diamond Pro with the 4" pockets, particularly for straight pool, bank pool and one pocket
In the mean time though, untill I'm lucky enough to make it to the US Open or the DCC, then my choice is a either a Brunswick GC4 or Centurion, and if I had to choose either one, it would be the centurion
Willie
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Gabriel!
I haven't had much experience with Diamond, which I hear good things about, but my choice is Gabriel. Wide, flat rails, flush pockets, slate so thick you can barely hear the balls roll, and they're beautiful!
pj
chgo
I haven't had much experience with Diamond, which I hear good things about, but my choice is Gabriel. Wide, flat rails, flush pockets, slate so thick you can barely hear the balls roll, and they're beautiful!
pj
chgo
Diamond Pro Am
The question you raised is the same one I asked myself six months ago as I decided that the time had come to finish my basement and get a 9ft table which by the way I have been dreamin' of for 10 years.
I narrowed my decision down to two choices; either a Brunswick GC IV or a Diamond Pro Am. Most of my pool hours had been spent on a Brunswick, so I decided to search out some pool halls with Diamond tables. My decision was ultimately based on several criteria since this was going to be a center piece in my basement:
1. Playability - Both played well, however I like the Diamond pro cut pockets better as they seemed to kick less balls out.
2. Appearance - The Diamond Pro Am overall to me looked better (IMHO) and the wife liked the table as well. (Definitely a plus)
3. Construction - I wanted a table that would stand up to two young boys
and still look good in ten years. Particulary since I wanted a table in Black. I noticed that the Brunswick table skirts were made of particle board and showed scratches in several pool halls which I visited. However, I liked the fact that Diamond Pro Am was very well made and that Diamondwood could stand up to rough abuse and still look good.
So the decision for me after a 10 year wait was a Diamond Pro Am, which I am expected to be delivered tomorrow!!
Hope this helps
The question you raised is the same one I asked myself six months ago as I decided that the time had come to finish my basement and get a 9ft table which by the way I have been dreamin' of for 10 years.
I narrowed my decision down to two choices; either a Brunswick GC IV or a Diamond Pro Am. Most of my pool hours had been spent on a Brunswick, so I decided to search out some pool halls with Diamond tables. My decision was ultimately based on several criteria since this was going to be a center piece in my basement:
1. Playability - Both played well, however I like the Diamond pro cut pockets better as they seemed to kick less balls out.
2. Appearance - The Diamond Pro Am overall to me looked better (IMHO) and the wife liked the table as well. (Definitely a plus)
3. Construction - I wanted a table that would stand up to two young boys
and still look good in ten years. Particulary since I wanted a table in Black. I noticed that the Brunswick table skirts were made of particle board and showed scratches in several pool halls which I visited. However, I liked the fact that Diamond Pro Am was very well made and that Diamondwood could stand up to rough abuse and still look good. So the decision for me after a 10 year wait was a Diamond Pro Am, which I am expected to be delivered tomorrow!!
Hope this helps
txplshrk said:
I prefer the GC because the rail nose height is CORRECT. The Diamonds rail nose height is TOO high, about 1/8 an inch and it therefore pinches the ball as it strike the nose and makes ALL angles coming off the rail short, but Here is my MAIN reason I hate the nose height. By the way in All other aspects I love the Diamond, exept they need BALL Counters (14.1) and ball boxes for one pocket players. DUH
On a Diamond:
When your shooting a ball down the rail at speed, and you hit almost ANY part of the nose before the ball hits the pocket facing...because the height is higher than the GC I II or III an maybe the newer ones too...the Diamond GRABS the ball by pinching it between the slate and the nose and puts Unwanted spin on the object ball. Thats why ANY time you hit a ball at a good speed, down the rail on a Diamond and catch the rail it will NOT ever go in, maybe somewhat when the cloth is NEW but never when its dirty, wet or worn at speed.
Plain and simple, thats not right.
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Island Drive said:
I'm calling shenanigans on this one. There is a standard height for rails, and any good table mechanic will make sure the rails meet this standard.
I think early Diamonds had a problem with short banks, but I think that was remedied by replacing the rubber with either a different kind, or rubber that was cut to fit those Diamonds.
Perhaps you have only played on some of those older Diamonds that were never properly fixed? From everything I have heard, the modern Diamond table plays pretty much perfect in every way.
Hopefully so, because I already bought one!
Russ
there is only one thing i dont like about my Gold Crown IV. that being the side pockets tend to spit balls out. not sure, but some have informed me that a "Wedge Shaped Shim" on the side pockets will, yes, make the pockets a little tighter, but also make them more fair in that they will now direct balls into the pockets instead of spitting them out.
i played on a Diamond table at Diana Minor's house a couple of times, and it was an awesome playing table too. you just cant go wrong either way as i see it!
DCP
i played on a Diamond table at Diana Minor's house a couple of times, and it was an awesome playing table too. you just cant go wrong either way as i see it!
DCP
Russ Chewning said:No points for guessing the one I like!!
And I'll be hitting my first ball on it in about 2 1/2 weeks.
Russ
Hey Russ?
all kidding aside, congratulations on the new Diamond table, you will be ecstatic over it! and i hope all is well in Baghdad for you.
Regards,
DCP
Thanks DCP.. And for everyone else, when I finally get back from Iraq for good, any time there are tournaments in Tampa, Orlando, Spring Hill, or Lakeland, there'll be a cookout at my house for AZers, just bring meat and your beverage of choice...
Even the ones with Short Bus Russ in their sig. I can imagine how you guys will laugh when you see the "Short Bus Russ" Jack Justis case that is in the works as we speak...
Oh yeah, and about the tournament thing... I live about 1/3 mile from a golf course, for you golfers out there..
Russ
Even the ones with Short Bus Russ in their sig. I can imagine how you guys will laugh when you see the "Short Bus Russ" Jack Justis case that is in the works as we speak...
Oh yeah, and about the tournament thing... I live about 1/3 mile from a golf course, for you golfers out there..
Russ
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> I'd probably take a Diamond Pro over a brand-new GC-IV,because it's about 1/2 the price if you go by Brunswick's MSRP on the IV. On the other hand,I like the sound of a ball hitting a plastic pocket liner like on a GC better than the Diamond,and I would take the GC over a Diamond all day long if they were priced the same. I also like a ball return table,as unless something has changed,Diamond doesn't offer one.
I'm not bagging on Diamonds either. For the money you pay for the matching light,chairs,and the table installed it can't be beat because the Brunswick GC light sucks compared to the Diamond,and by nature are a tough enough table to seriously improve on,even with the standard pocket cut. They look great too,at least the Pro does. Either is a fine choice. Tommy D.
I'm not bagging on Diamonds either. For the money you pay for the matching light,chairs,and the table installed it can't be beat because the Brunswick GC light sucks compared to the Diamond,and by nature are a tough enough table to seriously improve on,even with the standard pocket cut. They look great too,at least the Pro does. Either is a fine choice. Tommy D.
Tommy-D said:
Ahem.. Ahem... Doooooooood... Look at my picture above again...
Russ
Russ Chewning said:Ahem.. Ahem... Doooooooood... Look at my picture above again...
That would be a ball return alright.You are absolute correct and a quite ball return system too.
OriontheHunter said:That would be a ball return alright.
The layout could not be SWEETER either.. An LCD HDTV is going on the wall opposite the ball return. This will allow me to play Accu-Stats videos on the screen, watch the pros shoot a certain shot, shoot the shot over and over again, and have the balls return to me without having to change my position around the table at all..
Nice!
Russ
The Diamond Pro every day and twice on Sundays! It's simply a better table. The wide rails and flush pockets alone put it over the top, and when you add in the cut of the pockets, the deeper shelf, the way the cushions play and the ease of leveling the table, it becomes no contest. We don't even have to mention the lights and the price. As to the complaint that the pockets are not accepting enough, I strongly disagree. I played on a Diamond Pro for six hours a day for 2 1/2 years, and I can tell you that even when the cloth begins to wear and slow down, the pockets are tough but fair.