Golf versus Pool

So called 'upscale daily fee' courses are basically trying to be a 'country club for a day' thus the dress codes. 99.9% of the people that play these tracks always wear pretty nice golf garb. Its usually the city/county owned muni's where you see the t-shirts, cut-offs,etc. A lot of these have gone to DCodes in the last few years. Most people at the room i go too dress pretty well. There's always a few that look like meth cooks or gang bangers. At least management nixed the saggin' pants. ;)
 
Kevin Trudeau revitalized the dress with success appeal. In todays world values have changed.

Respecting people and having communication skills places much higher than appearance.

The best way to change the community is to be the change and push for progress you want.

Charlie Williams gets unfair treatment here but his events paid out. Kevin Trudeau was heralded as a hero but he didnt last as long in the community. TAR was well defended on this forum. However that was another investor that left.

You make an interpretation on what is happening.

As for golf versus pool, golf is well played at country clubs with exclusive membership access. Pool is played everywhere and on good and bad equipment.

Status symbols and class segregation still exists. Pool has been ok in the leagues and events I attend.

If someone wants to flex, then pool flexes for the lower and middle class.

The top 1% can have their exclusivity. For me pool will always be for everyone,
Including the haters.

The top 1% or golf is has high visibility because then can afford to dump money. However growing how many kids naturally wanted to play golf. Golf was a way to connect with upper class.
Please elaborate on the bold section of your post. He gets unfair treatment?
 
This is one if those topics that always goes sideways.

If you gently suggest a clean golf shirt with a collar might be a better choice than a dirty Tshirt...not even daring to suggest they consider tucking it in...and every single time people start strawman debates about tuxedos and necklies.

If people don't care about how they present themselves to the world, pleading with them to dress better for the good of pool isn't going to make a difference. I really don't care how others dress to play pool in bars and halls any more than I care how they dress to go to Home Depot.

Fix the image of the pros on TV and streaming image and the amateurs will follow that lead.



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It doesnt matter what image you try to portray. Back in the day that pros wore "tuxedos", pool was still seen as "seedy".

Reminds me of the saying "Put makeup on a pig, it's still a pig"



Does this count as colorful? I mean Who wouldn't love me? I'm a giant glass of beer!
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Maybe its just the pic but I thought the shirt looked like it had some kind of puss filled blisters. Sorry. :confused: :)
 
Sometimes I wear a not so nice shirt to the pool room.
My wife will point this out and I say "I'm going to the pool room who cares?"
I'm going to start wearing better shirts to the room,I have a lot of them.
I will be the new fashion king of Felt billiards.
Maybe a fake Rolex is also needed?
 
A couple evenings ago I went to JOBs pool hall in Nashville. My usual place to play, A relatively nice place with 30 well kept Diamonds, good food, drinks, great cue repair shop and pool equipment sales. It has a lot of good league play and a place to get a game if you want. A very friendly and safe place to play. A 40 year old business that is really laid out nice but could use a little updating. It can get a little smoky but in all they try to keep the air clean. I really would like to see the smokers be more respectful but this is not about smokers. I just wanted to give a visual of the business,

I find it amusing that male pool players always seem to wear black or dark clothing or something very dreary looking. Unkempt. Many of the printed shirts have slogans like 'Pool players do it with balls' or some other degrading statement. Of the 70 guys only 2 wore something colorful. But going to a golf course guys seem to dress to impress. They are ALWAYS very clean, colorful, and neat. Even skate boarders seem to be colorful. This is not a complaint, just an observation. I wonder if possible sponsors get the same impression?
Generally speaking, golf is a sport for pretty boys and rich folks. Pool is grungy cheap bar game. That's why pool style and golf style are so different.

I like the way pool is. Nothing beats going into a crowded bar, dressed like a hoodlum, and earning everyone's respect by crushing all of the local pool players into oblivion. Doing it dressed like a golfer would never have the same appeal.

In the words of Happy Gilmore: Golf is for rich accountants with goofy pants and a fat ass...or something like that lol. I hope pool never changes. It's great the way it is.
 
I am curious though about why people are wanting billiards to be more commercially popular. For me, it's fine how it is. That said, dressing with more self-respect at a competitive level is the most important starting point. Nothing attracts casuals better than attractive people. When someone is beautiful, it can hide a lot of flaws.
 
A couple evenings ago I went to JOBs pool hall in Nashville. My usual place to play, A relatively nice place with 30 well kept Diamonds, good food, drinks, great cue repair shop and pool equipment sales. It has a lot of good league play and a place to get a game if you want. A very friendly and safe place to play. A 40 year old business that is really laid out nice but could use a little updating. It can get a little smoky but in all they try to keep the air clean. I really would like to see the smokers be more respectful but this is not about smokers. I just wanted to give a visual of the business,

I find it amusing that male pool players always seem to wear black or dark clothing or something very dreary looking. Unkempt. Many of the printed shirts have slogans like 'Pool players do it with balls' or some other degrading statement. Of the 70 guys only 2 wore something colorful. But going to a golf course guys seem to dress to impress. They are ALWAYS very clean, colorful, and neat. Even skate boarders seem to be colorful. This is not a complaint, just an observation. I wonder if possible sponsors get the same impression?
Pool appeals to all social spectrums, in my experience. Affinity towards the game, however, appears to be largely associated with those enjoying fewer social and economic advantages. Low self-esteem is common to many pool enthusiasts. This is displayed frequently in players' language, and carriage and bearing. Respect for others falls victim to the lesser values found in much of poolroom culture.

Golf also appeals to all social spectrums, not just the well healed and elite. As such, it reflects values common to mainstream American life. Values like honesty, fairness, courtesy, are widely found among golfers. Honesty and fairness supports a cordial atmosphere that is welcoming to all that come. Dressing appropriately is an example not of classism, as some pool-centric commentators may suggest, but of respect and courtesy towards one's fellows - so as not to offend sensitivities.

I love pool. I grew up in poolrooms in adolescence through early adulthood. I marveled and fascinated at the many characters on their ways through. Many were role models, despite their sometimes, unseemly ways. I came across middle class living by grace. Golf came to me late in life. I just wanted to share some distinctions that I cherish.
 
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