Gorst vs Orcullo??
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Fedor seems to be doing it the right way, climbing the ladder as a rising star should. There is little point playing a race to 100 vs Filler, JL Chang or SVB until he has tried his hand against Orcullo and Shaw. Wu and Zheng would also make for great matches against Fedor, but I don't know whether or not they are action players. My guess is that Gorst would have to be favored right now over both Raga and Ko Ping Chung.
Guess I now see three different tiers within the world's top 10 players as I rate them. Tier one, the most elite, includes JL Chang, Filler and SVB. Tier 2, the next most elite, includes Gorst, Orcullo , Zheng and Shaw. Tier 3, just a notch behind Tier 2, includes Ko Ping Chung and Raga.
Guess I now see three different tiers within the world's top 10 players as I rate them. Tier one, the most elite, includes JL Chang, Filler and SVB. Tier 2, the next most elite, includes Gorst, Orcullo , Zheng and Shaw. Tier 3, just a notch behind Tier 2, includes Ko Ping Chung and Raga.
I've only rated my top 10, and yes, I see Little Ko, the reigning World 10-ball Champion, as a bit stronger than Big Ko right now. My next ten, in no particular order would be, Ko Pin Yi, Liu Haitao, Eklent Kaci, Albin Ouschan, Carlo Biado, Johann Chua, Lee Van Cortezza, David Alcaide, Alex Kazakis, and James Aranas. Let's call them Tier 4.
It's in the eye of the beholder. I'd put him in the low 20's right now. Recall that Kaci crushed him when they played best three out of five races to twenty five in Las Vegas in 2019. Kaci won easily in three straight sets. In my opinion, the Alex of ten years ago would have won going away. Some say that Alex doesn't play as much pool as he used to, which may explain why he doesn't seem to contend for the biggest titles anymore. Of course, he's probably still as good as anyone at one pocket, but I based my rankings on nine and ten ball alone.
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In his prime before he contracted leukemia, dennis shane or alex would prob stake their money on him.
Right now realistically, Fedor or Shane wld prob get the better of him.
Per post #3, I ranked him somewhere in the 4-8 range in the world.
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fedor should take the 9 ball
Not top 20 and neither is Thorpe.
That raises an interesting question about fargo... Kaci is currently a mere 2 points ahead of Alex. Yet based on a poor showing from 2 years ago during a head/head match you believe that snapshot is defining Alex's current speed as 10+ points lower than it actually is.
No argument from me regarding anyone's currently ability. Just wondering if Alex's "robustness" in fargo at ~8100 is keeping him higher in the standings then it should. Comparably speaking, Kaci has ~2400 less games in the system, so who's fargo should we have more faith in...?
My sense of things is that Alex is not playing up to his Fargo at rotation games. He is rated 6 Fargo points over Albin Ouschan and I'd have to pick Albin in a long race over Alex presently. In the last two events nine ball events I attended in which Alex was playing, he only got as far as Round 4 at the 2020 Derby City 9-ball and at the 2019 International, he came a fairly pedestrian 7th/8th. Finally, I'm not sure Alex had a poor showing against Kaci. He simply lost to a guy who played better than him.
Alex is and always has been one of my personal favorites, but I don't look at him through rose colored glasses. He is no longer one of the guys you pick to win the toughest nine ball events, as we was for so long.
Interesting question. Those races to 25 against Kaci are not in FargoRate. But in the last two years, Alex has played 146 games against the top 13 players in FargoRate: Shane(36), JL Chang(15), PY Ko(14), PC Ko(61), and LV Corteza(20), and his record for those is 73 wins and 73 losses
Also, you are an Ontario player so you are probably aware just a few months ago he beat Erik Hjorliefson (743), Waleed Hasheem (705), Carlin Sanderson (699) and DJ McGinley (699) by a combined score of 60 to 20 with nobody reaching the halfway mark in races to 15.
Oh ya... I would have loved to play in that tournament, but $500 for a single knockout is a tad steep for me. In fact all my games in the fargo system are from the room that hosted that event.