Great Players with a pronounced stroke slip

CeaseLess

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Just curious who some great players that consistently use a stroke slip (throwing the cue forward on your final stroke through the cue ball) are. Watched Atencio vs Shane in the finals of the US open 10 ball and Atencio uses a stroke slip on almost every shot and it looks smooth as mashed potatoes, wanna get a good list of players to check out, thanks in advance.
 
This and essentially throwing the cue through the ball. I use to do this 20 years ago as part of my arsenal. No longer need too. I can draw perfectly fine now.
I couldn't get the hang of it - you know less than a 1000 hours to work it out, so I approached the power draw by traditional techniques. I did manage to get the ball action I was looking for a couple times - burn rubber and then hook up like a rocket but still no available 1000 hours.
 
throwing the cue forward is stupid and if some pros are doing it is stupid as well, and soon will go away.
 
throwing the cue forward is stupid and if some pros are doing it is stupid as well, and soon will go away.
Ko made a very good point though. The cue in free flight won't be influenced by extraneous forces. ie bad stroke; whatever...
 
Ko made a very good point though. The cue in free flight won't be influenced by extraneous forces. ie bad stroke; whatever...
Even if you don't use the slip on draws...drawing the ball normally you want to keep your wrist loose. You don't want a "fundamentally sound grip" to power draw.

You can also replicate the slip without actually slipping the cue I still follow through on all my draw shots but very loose through contact.

This is just my technique and there are many.
 
Even if you don't use the slip on draws...drawing the ball normally you want to keep your wrist loose. You don't want a "fundamentally sound grip" to power draw.

You can also replicate the slip without actually slipping the cue I still follow through on all my draw shots but very loose through contact.

This is just my technique and there are many.
What I started on was instead of mindlessly following through, I took a bit from the Ray Martin book - shoot like the cueball isn't there or words to that effect. Instead of staring down the CB with the evil eye, I lightened up and shot about one ball past the CB. This made all the difference.
 
Specifically? I don't know. I just always thought his stroke looked so smooth.

At about the 15 second mark, Jimmy claims to have a slip stroke.

Getting into a terminology issue. A slip stroke is on the backswing which you will see Jimmy do on many, I would say most shots I have seen video of. A stroke slip refers to letting go of the cue on the forward stroke. Some people use this pretty effectively.

Any stroke and any grip will work if you hit the cue ball at the point and speed you intend to. I have used everything from just cradling the cue in my fingers to a death grip holding the cue as tightly as I could. The very tight grip worked just as well as any other with some practice on the table but It would wear me out in a few hours play and I would wake up with a very sore forearm the next day.

One stroke or grip over another is overrated. All that is really needed is that it be consistent delivering the cue.

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That is a slip stroke. I think the OP is talking about a "stroke slip". To some people, these are very, very different kinds of stroke.

My take: for the vast majority of players, it is a mistake to change the location of the grip hand during the stroke.
If a player doesn't already know what that is and how to cue it, I wouldn't recommend attempting to incorporate it into your stroke. Rabbit holes.
 
That is a slip stroke. I think the OP is talking about a "stroke slip". To some people, these are very, very different kinds of stroke.

My take: for the vast majority of players, it is a mistake to change the location of the grip hand during the stroke.
I agree with you for the vast majority. I was lucky enough to watch him play when I was a teen… Jimmy was friend of my father. When the Color of Money was released one of the local movie theaters set him up with a pool table (trick shots) in the lobby to promote the movie. I’ve looked at Jimmy’s slip stoke on different videos probably a hundred times. It seems like he used his slip stroke when he wanted to put some level of juice on the ball as he didn’t use it on every shot. Also when he used the slip stroke it seems a though he didn’t want his back hand to follow through or that‘s how he insured that cue ball contact was at the mid point of his backhand pendulum. Thats my observation and guess. It was definitely second nature to him.
 
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