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I am looking to open a small pool room in my town. There is a spot that is 3800 sq ft with 3000 of it available to place pool tables(photos attached). Already has a kitchen and bar area. How many 9 ft and 7ft tables do you think will fit comfortably (at least 72" between them) in a space like this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have gone to so many websites that "help" you calculate it and they really are no help at all.
 

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i'd shoot for 8 ea 7' tables....need 8 for decent size tourneys

a "dart" area ( money maker once established)

Bal of space for 9' tables

based on dimensions
 
Don't forget seating.

Table and seating for four for each table if you're going to be running leagues...

Probably some dedicated tables/seating for eating too…
 
The dimensions of the room are needed.
Post a sketch and I can tell you exactly what you have.

You need scale to make money off a room. Least 20 tables and a market the supports the room....really supports it. If you have a room in the northeast or other area where pool is seasonal....you need to account for your worst months and not just the beat months.

Running a room is great if you are passionate about it. It's also a huge amount of headaches from ungrateful disrespectful people. Pool players are notoriously cheap.
 
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a "dart" area ( money maker once established)
I was told by the former owner of my local room that darts was not a money maker in the slightest. I'm sure that varies from area to area. However in our neck of the woods. They were not interested in partaking in the bar or kitchen.
 
What's the rent$.
Who are your next door neighbors?
If you decide to have a 9' table, have two, not one.
What kind of person is the landlord, and if it doesn't go, do you have an easy way out?
Sometimes when your changing ''something'' the city may have laws that enforce you to spend more to meet code. Be extremely aware of this fact.
 
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I am looking to open a small pool room in my town. There is a spot that is 3800 sq ft with 3000 of it available to place pool tables(photos attached). Already has a kitchen and bar area. How many 9 ft and 7ft tables do you think will fit comfortably (at least 72" between them) in a space like this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have gone to so many websites that "help" you calculate it and they really are no help at all.
Of the 3000 square feet for your pool area, what are the dimensions? That is necessary to configure your table setup.

For 9-foot tables:

Is it wide enough to have 2 rows of tables set end to end with enough room for seating on the ends against the walls (a minimum of 41’-42’ width)?

Or wide enough for 2 rows of tables set side to side with enough room for seating on the sides against the walls (a minimum of 32’-33’ width)?

Or wide enough for 1 row set end to end and the second row set side to side with seating along both walls (a minimum of 36’-37’ width)?

Or only wide enough for 1 row of tables set side to side with seating against one wall (a minimum 22’-23’ width)?

As far as the length of the room, you need at least 90’ length to fit 8 tables side by side, and subtract 11’ of length for each 1 table less than that.
 
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I was told by the former owner of my local room that darts was not a money maker in the slightest. I'm sure that varies from area to area. However in our neck of the woods. They were not interested in partaking in the bar or kitchen.
If you have an organized dart league....they drink like fish
 
Before you do anything make sure you talk to whoever is in charge of zoning and the town council .If they are crooks { and lots of them are } you will regret not checking that out ahead of time. Also , are you going to need to upgrade the place with handicapped bathrooms, and things like that, {very expensive } what was ok for an office might not be ok for a poolroom or bar. Lots of pitfalls. I would talk to some business owners in the area. Usually major towns have a lot of oversight so the corruption is much more sophisticated, in a small town or municipality, you might be dealing with Hannibal Lector and Buffalo Bill at the same time.
 
In the pic the space looks to be around 30 ft wide. Assuming true, then it would be 100 ft long. 30ft is awkward for 9ft tables. Another assumption about splitting the room in half. 50ft for each size. 6 - 9ft tables with extra room for seating. And 10 - 7ft tables with no extra room for tables. 8 - 7fters if you want some seating.
 
Lets do something funny, take a pen and a paper and something to measure your room with, include all area, entrance, balcony, toilets, storagerooms etc.
I will make a first basic layout for you, and then you can ask all members here to complete the layout with thoughts and ideas from their own experience, I will ofcourse do the same, I been running poolrooms for 30+ years now.
Pics below is just samples.

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