Green spec cortland wrap?????
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Yes you probably can if the wrap is not rotted. Take some tape and tape over the entire wrap. Start at each end and come inward to get an even amount of tape at each end. Sand the old finish off and spray the cue. Then remove tape sand and polish out finish and take some Cue Man shaft cleaner and spray it on the wrap and press it out like you were polishing the wrap. Then press with water a time or two, press with starch and you are done.swami4u said:
Chris
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swami4u said:
Another option is just to have the cue re wrapped with the original Green Speck Cortland wrap.
There is a guy on eBay selling Original Cortland green speck wrap for $40 for enough to wrap a cue.
I suspect I would just re wrap it and seal it to protect it.
Merry Christmas
Manwon
Koop said:
Koop, the main difference is the distinctive thread pattern. The Cortland cloth though in general is no better than what we have today, it may even not be as good.
But, for restoration of collectible cues it is a must, and will always be in demand.
Merry Christmas
manwon
swami4u said:
I would send it to Proficient Billiards for either or both.
http://www.proficientbilliards.com/services/pages/cleanwrap_jpg.htm
Cortland on Ebay!!!!
The Cortland on Ebay was being offered by Jerry Pechauer. His E-mail is Jjpechauer@aol.com
Regards, Roger
The Cortland on Ebay was being offered by Jerry Pechauer. His E-mail is Jjpechauer@aol.com
Regards, Roger
You could also send the cue to be refinished by a cue maker who has some Cortland wrap.
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cortland wrap
the original Courtland line was was what was called cable layed. That meant individual strands were twisted between towers to make the final product.
When I was making cues in Aspen CO, Courtland told me they were stopping production on the irish linen.
I started research in an attempt to find a subsitute. After a year I came up with what is being used today. It is composed of 3 twisted pairs of strands. I got together with the other cuemakers of the day, Szamboti, McDermott, Viking, Gina, Joss and Black to order enought to have it made.
The feel or texture is different. The Courtland was smoother and better quality but does not press as well because it is harder.
I still have some of the old Courtland I bought from McDermott but only use it in restorations.
Bill Stroud
the original Courtland line was was what was called cable layed. That meant individual strands were twisted between towers to make the final product.
When I was making cues in Aspen CO, Courtland told me they were stopping production on the irish linen.
I started research in an attempt to find a subsitute. After a year I came up with what is being used today. It is composed of 3 twisted pairs of strands. I got together with the other cuemakers of the day, Szamboti, McDermott, Viking, Gina, Joss and Black to order enought to have it made.
The feel or texture is different. The Courtland was smoother and better quality but does not press as well because it is harder.
I still have some of the old Courtland I bought from McDermott but only use it in restorations.
Bill Stroud
bstroud said:
So would you say the newer linen has a better feel to it?
Thanks and nice to see you posting.
BTW, I would like to say publicly that I believe the Universal Smart Shaft is one of the greatest inventions to date. I swear by mine and am in the process of buying a second one.
What we have today does not come close to the quality of Cortland, Penn or many of the other brands of Irish linen fishing line. The fishing line is perfectly uniform in diameter, spacing of the colored specks, strength, etc.manwon said:
It had to be this way because if you had a 100' or 100 miles of it it all had to be a certain strength for its pound test rating.
Typical Cortland you find on most old cues is nine strand or 27 pound test and about .025" diameter.
Cue wrap of today has no uniformity, its only advantages is that it is cheap and available in many colors.
Real Cortland or Penn wrap is very easy to recognize and distinguish from "cue wrap".
billiardcue said:
Yup. That confirms for me that I have the real stuff. Glad to know that. Thanks for the details, Dick. This is good stuff to those of us who never knew anything about it.
JWP
fishing line?
Does anyone else want to jump in here? I've never heard of that before... When was / is Irish Linen used as "fishing line?"
I have dealt with some of these manufacturers... They only provide a lb. test rating if the line is made from a petroleum based product (rayon, nylon, etc...). There are too many inconsistencies when dealing with an organic material like woven flax fibers to be able to rate the line accurately.
Does anyone else want to jump in here? I've never heard of that before... When was / is Irish Linen used as "fishing line?"
I have dealt with some of these manufacturers... They only provide a lb. test rating if the line is made from a petroleum based product (rayon, nylon, etc...). There are too many inconsistencies when dealing with an organic material like woven flax fibers to be able to rate the line accurately.
class act said:
Real Irish Linen is made of flax, not cotton. Flax is very strong and it's use was in both fly and bait casting. Cortland Co. was one of the premier fishing line manufacturers. When Nylon line came on to the scene the need faded away for Irish Linen, with it's higher cost and tendency to rot if not dried properly. It is no longer made for fishing line, by any company, that I know of.
class act said:
prior to Nylon, circa WWII, IIUC, Irish Linen was THE fishing line.
As the story goes, Silk thread was standard for a wrap for those
who didn't want leather
One day, Herman went to get some silk to re-wrap a cue, the store was out of stock for the Silk, so he decided to try some Irish Linen
and a tradition was born, more or less.
Dale