Guinness 9 ball tour

[parvus1202]

If the US players are complaining about the price money in Asia and how expensive it is to travel, then how come the Asians with no money at all can travel to other part of the world to compete? Sponsors? Plus talent? Plus guts? Pool is not just in the US , it's worldwide. If US players are invited then go. Don't expect everything to be done in the USA.

 

[cuycuy]

How much money can we play for if I bring a non-Asian player to the Phillipines to play a 15 ahead set of nine ball with the best player you can muster.

Would I be able to get a bet of $500,000 covered? What is your limit? Do you have any?

So really, do you think Puyat, or Bugsy, or the Filipino Mafia will cover a bet like that or are we still talking about walking around money in Derby City?

I just spoke to my father about this. He says YES. The Filipino backers can cover $500,000. Who are you putting up front? This isn't just tough talk. Are you serious about this?

You can PM me the details since this is OT for the thread.

What's up with making them dress up in those stupid shirts? Let the players be individuals. I'd love to see these assholes try and tell Tiger Woods and the rest of the pro golfers that they had to all wear the same clothes for an event. Good luck with that.

We in the Philippines practice this. Smaller-scale events like our National Championships do this for the equipment sponsor who provides the shirts for staff, refs, etc. In exchange we offer to dress up the players. Just one of those things to mark off expenses from the bottom line. I wish it weren't so myself. But pennypinching is that bad when it comes to smaller events.

The Phillipines Open? How much did that pay out? Like .72cnts Seriously, was it worth traveling to?

For the record, that's a different Philippine promoter who put that up. We have no connection with that event.

On the issue of Westerners participation in Asia:

For me personally, Asians have to raise the stakes to attract the likes of the stars from Europe and the US. I don't think it's just enough for Asia to have payouts be at a level of tournaments in the US anymore. I think Asia is the center of pool now. We should dictate the limits of what this sport should have.

Taiwan and the Philippines so far has done the heavy lifting to bring the sport where it is today, but we can't bear this burden all the time. I do hope the Indonesians, the Chinese and other nations pick up the slack for the future. So at least we can get excited over pool's true growth for years to come.

 

[jay helfert]

Walking down the street here in Bangkok you could see the tournament on TV through the windows in every sports bar. You would think it was the Super Bowl by the number of people watching.

Sound like the WPC in Manila last year. I went in a restaurant and people knew me by my voice. I was on the air that much. A waitress called me "the announcer man".

 

[John Barton]

Well then, my virtual high roll was called. I was wondering how high you all would go because a race to 60 for $10,000 is just plain silly in light of some of the big money matchups that occur at DCC and other places.

If I had the money then I would glady put a couple players in the box. And it is simply because I truly believe that there are several players who can get there. Not that they are a lock but they aren't dead in the water either.

So let's see some of that big money to get the world's best players to go to Asia where they are appreciated.

Anyway, I just felt like being contrary. Props to the Filipinos and the APBU for getting pool to a place that "mighty" America can't.

 

[GADawg]

I think expecting the tournaments in Asia to raise purses to cover expenses for foreign players to come is a little naive. A purse equivalent to $15000 in Indonesia, the Philippines or China is a lot of money in those economies. You could live pretty good for year on that here.

Just because the cost of living is higher in other places and that money doesn't go as far is not a real justification for raising the prizes.

The $10,000 that Yang won from Orcullo last week is about 500,000 Philippine pesos which is about 4 years wages for the average citizen there. How much would the US open have to pay to be equivalent to that?

They sell all the tickets that have and everybody is Asia is watching the Guinness commercials on tv. What is the incentive for the promoters to pay higher prizes to get other foreign players into the tournament?

 

[John Barton]

I think expecting the tournaments in Asia to raise purses to cover expenses for foreign players to come is a little naive. A purse equivalent to $15000 in Indonesia, the Philippines or China is a lot of money in those economies. You could live pretty good for year on that here.

Just because the cost of living is higher in other places and that money doesn't go as far is not a real justification for raising the prizes.

The $10,000 that Yang won from Orcullo last week is about 500,000 Philippine pesos which is about 4 years wages for the average citizen there. How much would the US open have to pay to be equivalent to that?

They sell all the tickets that have and everybody is Asia is watching the Guinness commercials on tv. What is the incentive for the promoters to pay higher prizes to get other foreign players into the tournament?

I know. I just felt like being cantankerous and am jealous that you have what we don't.

I want to see my heroes mixing it up and snapping off matches and tournaments too.

anyway, I will be watching the rest of the tour on satellite in a few weeks.

 

[cuycuy]

Well then, my virtual high roll was called. .

Lol. Well Perry Mariano, the manager of Orcullo and Alcano, when he heard of this said that you gave a high figure thinking we would run away because of it. Half a million dollars is definitely within the realm of possibility. Give us a month's advance notice, and the match is on.

I was wondering how high you all would go because a race to 60 for $10,000 is just plain silly in light of some of the big money matchups that occur at DCC and other places

It's best to ask the promoter/s those questions. I was more curious about the audience response to it, which was extremely positive. There may have been some betting done behind the scenes of the match, although I never heard of any Taiwanese stake money involved.

They sell all the tickets that have and everybody is Asia is watching the Guinness commercials on tv. What is the incentive for the promoters to pay higher prizes to get other foreign players into the tournament?

Prestige. Having Western stars of the game like Souquet gives the game an edge to the Asian Public and (hopefully) to the sponsor. Why would we bother holding the WPC at all if it weren't for that?

Besides, it is a waste for Asia to try and not take these steps to globalize the sport. We have the ball in our court now, we have the advantages. If you truly love the sport of pool, then why not try and see how far Asia can take it?

 

[Cuaba]

Try Bangkok

Sound like the WPC in Manila last year. I went in a restaurant and people knew me by my voice. I was on the air that much. A waitress called me "the announcer man".

Jay,
I hope you can make it over here some day. There is a tournament almost every day somewhere in Bangkok. And this is the most fun city on the planet. Wu Chia Ching was just here on vacation. He played all the locals. He says he wants to come back soon.

I'd be happy to show you around.

 

[kidrock]

Jay,
I hope you can make it over here some day. There is a tournament almost every day somewhere in Bangkok. And this is the most fun city on the planet. Wu Chia Ching was just here on vacation. He played all the locals. He says he wants to come back soon.

I'd be happy to show you around.

Nothing beats Asian hospitality

 

[Bayawak]

I know you are just kidding but let me ask you a serious question which you may or may not know the answer to.

How much money can we play for if I bring a non-Asian player to the Phillipines to play a 15 ahead set of nine ball with the best player you can muster.

Would I be able to get a bet of $500,000 covered? What is your limit? Do you have any? I know that the dollar goes a long way there and I said I didn't think that playing for $10,000 to determine the "money game king" was particularly impressive.

About five to ten times that was in play when Hoppe played Vigeaneux(sp) in like 1910 or something.

So really, do you think Puyat, or Bugsy, or the Filipino Mafia will cover a bet like that or are we still talking about walking around money in Derby City?

I doubt Corteza uses a Fury shaft but if he does good for him. Do you happen to know who scammed me out a case posing as Dennis Orcullo several years ago? I'd love to hear that those assholes got some karmic smackdown.

And yeah, how can it be a "tour" if it's all invitational? I guess it's the Guiness poolplayers exhibition tour. What's up with making them dress up in those stupid shirts? Let the players be individuals. I'd love to see these assholes try and tell Tiger Woods and the rest of the pro golfers that they had to all wear the same clothes for an event. Good luck with that.

If this is the kind of control that they are exercising then I am glad Efren said no to the tour.

Why doens't the APBU leverage their sponsorship and open it up to anyone who is qualified to compete? Let's just see if Archer, Morris or Immonen can hang on tour in Asia.

I a sure Guiness wouldn't care if they had more diversity in their black and white shirts.

Or maybe they think no one will watch if there isn't an Asian playing. Tell that to the NBA which broadcasts games in China that get watched even without Yao Ming.

Rant off. Does $500,000 fit on the light?

Well, how about it, bigmouth, are you just loaded with hot air? Cuycuy just called your bluff. Let's see what you gonna do. Put up your $ 500,000.00 and they will cover it, or are just talking hot air?

Or are you just scared to death??