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Gus Szamboti 70's
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I had a well known high end collector make me an offer on a cue and added, "If you shop the cue around then I don't want it any more."
So there's that to consider. Of course, if you are looking to hold it for 10 years then I imagine you would be given some slack by collectors... the ones still alive, that is.
So there's that to consider. Of course, if you are looking to hold it for 10 years then I imagine you would be given some slack by collectors... the ones still alive, that is.
I guess I do not understand that. It seems odd that letting multiple people see your cue would discourage bidders?
People enjoy having the chance to show a cue off.
Also the market continues to worsen, your plan to ride your Gus into the ground is working
After the new girl at school has been passed around to half the football team she seems less exotic. I think it's along those lines.
Seriously, though, I think part of the intrigue of owning such a rare cue is the story that goes with it. We all know a cue is more valuable if it has a good story attached...this was Mosconi's cue, etc.. If a collector can acquire a cue that is mostly unknown and found to be a real find, so much the better for the new owner, and so much the higher the perceived value.
I'm not a collector myself, so I don't know for sure. I just know that when you are dealing with works of art rather than widgets the market rules are different. I've been following this thread with interest from the beginning and I wish you the best, but I'm not sure you are giving that aspect of high end cue market enough consideration. You've been given a realistic range of values from experts and it is clear, up to now, that the high end of the range you've been "quoted" is not realistic.
Are you concerned that you are going to make a bad deal, or do you just not like the potential sale prices? For instance, let's say the experts appraised your cue at $7K to $11K and you got three offers below $8500 and one for $11K. Would you then be happy to sell at $11K? As it is, you've turned down offers higher than that. Is it simply because someone said you might be able to get $18K?
Dan.....Thanks for taking the time to contribute your input. It seemed incorrect for me to sell at the bottom of the range I was given by over 100 people who responded to me both in this forum and in private messages. If this were a plain garden variety Gus then I would consider doing that but this is much nicer than the average Gus so somewhere near the middle to the upper end of the range seems correct to me. I was told by some people here that Gus only made about 1200 cues and only 10% of them were higher-end fancy cues so I think mine must be in the top 100 Gus ever made. I could be wrong about this but that is what I was told when I asked for help in this forum. This is a one-owner cue I purchased directly from Gus in the 1970's and have had now for close to 45 years. Having a third shaft makes it more valuable than the ones with just one or two shafts. Putting all this input together is what has shaped my opinion of where in the "range" I should sell. Thanks again for your input. 
Dan.....Thanks for taking the time to contribute your input. It seemed incorrect for me to sell at the bottom of the range I was given by over 100 people who responded to me both in this forum and in private messages. If this were a plain garden variety Gus then I would consider doing that but this is much nicer than the average Gus so somewhere near the middle to the upper end of the range seems correct to me. I was told by some people here that Gus only made about 1200 cues and only 10% of them were higher-end fancy cues so I think mine must be in the top 100 Gus ever made. I could be wrong about this but that is what I was told when I asked for help in this forum. This is a one-owner cue I purchased directly from Gus in the 1970's and have had now for close to 45 years. Having a third shaft makes it more valuable than the ones with just one or two shafts. Putting all this input together is what has shaped my opinion of where in the "range" I should sell. Thanks again for your input.
I understand. I think part of the issue is that you don't really need to sell. They always say if you put a car up for auction without a reserve you are more likely to get serious buyers bidding. They know the car will sell. You've kind of put a reserve on the cue by shopping it for two years and saying you don't need to sell. Maybe some buyers are waiting for you to get serious. Just a guess.
Hope you get what you want out of it eventually.
Farther into the drain, have a great night
Should have checked back 3 months ago, prices doubled...
Timing is everything.... :wink:
JV
Great to hear your opinion Will, which is invaluable..and I feel the same
For me it's nice to see the progress of this offering. Cues like it are just not openly available.
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You will easily get ten to twenty times what you paid for it. It is a very nice cue.
"I think He is trying for 50 times what he paid
And he missed that boat by 20 years, drifting further away from shore by the day