Hal Houle Carom Aiming System

JoeyA

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I just thought I would wake you guys up with this one. Hal telephone me yesterday and talked with me quite a while on the telephone. He has always been extremely pleasant, entertaining and knowledgable about pool and other subjects a well. He has lead an unusual life sharing a few years 24/7 with Ralph Greenleaf learning a few things along the way.

Hal was explaining his carom system to me over the phone and I didn't have an ear piece and had to keep puttin the cell phone down on the table but after several tries I started making decent contact with the carom system and was actually pretty impressed.

In playing a match later on that night after failing miserably in a bar table tournament I was playing some nine ball for a few jelly beans and I had a shot on the 4 ball but could do very little in the form of making it or playing safe so I used Hal's aiming system for caroms to pot the nine ball. The four ball was about 3 feet from the cue ball and the nine ball was about 3 1/2 feet from the four. When the nine ball fell gently into the pocket I had to smile at my good fortune of talking with Hal earlier in the day as I would never have tried to make the nine ball with accuracy but might have tried to hit the nine at just under break speed wishing for the nine to find a hole on its own and praying that the cue didn't find one of its own.

I won't post Hal's aimings system for Caroms here out of courtesy to him but he welcomes a phone call from you if you are polite and interested. If I can learn one of his systems over the phone, so can you. He had to explain it several times as I was not having good results at the beginning and just wasn't "getting it". Finally I started having some marginal success hitting the last object ball frequently. The carom system is simple but requires some practice and it is obvious to me that with some practice your potting skills will increase with Hal's unusual carom aiming system.

Hal's systems may be radical and they may or may not work consistently well but they offer another arrow for your quiver. Luck was with me in the match but I barely managed to come out one set on top of a good competitor. I'm glad that Hal called me because the match was close and the carom turned the odds in my favor as well as deflating my opponent's confidence.
JoeyA
 
Where can I buy a dvd/book or something explaining the techniques? i'd be interseted in learning the true techniques
 
grobar said:
Where can I buy a dvd/book or something explaining the techniques? i'd be interseted in learning the true techniques

As anyone who knows Hal can attest, your post would make him chuckle and then probably send him into a 30 minute tirade...:D
ruk
 
That's so true!!! :p

Hal will be QUICK to tell you that his aiming systems are so complex, that NO ONE but him can properly explain them:eek:

-von

rukiddingme said:
As anyone who knows Hal can attest, your post would make him chuckle and then probably send him into a 30 minute tirade...:D
ruk
 
Good post Joey. Hal showed it to me when I went to visit with him and I was extremely impressed. He is such a great guy. Thank you for the reminder to call him.

Regards,
Koop
 
Koop said:
Good post Joey. Hal showed it to me when I went to visit with him and I was extremely impressed. He is such a great guy. Thank you for the reminder to call him.

Regards,
Koop

I spoke to Hal recently and he still has his physical maladies but is sharp as ever and a very interesting guy to talk to. I love to listen to him talk about Ralph Greenleaf. :D His stories about Indian Wrestling are a favorite of mine too. :thumbup:

JoeyA
 
dmgwalsh said:
I think Scott Lee was visiting with him recently.
I would be interested to know what Scott thinks of these systems and if he incorporates them into his teachings?
 
JoeyA said:
I spoke to Hal recently and he still has his physical maladies but is sharp as ever and a very interesting guy to talk to. I love to listen to him talk about Ralph Greenleaf. :D His stories about Indian Wrestling are a favorite of mine too. :thumbup:

JoeyA


Yep, me too man. Did he tell you the stories about playing tennis? Those are some good ones too. The guy is multi-talented to say the least.
 
cookie man said:
I would be interested to know what Scott thinks of these systems and if he incorporates them into his teachings?

The system Scott teaches is an adaptation of Hal's. Not the same thing but close. From my understanding they, meaning Scott and Randy, expanded on them a bit and came up with SAM.

Koop - to each their own but I'll take the real deal straight from the horses mouth.
 
Contact Hal

grobar said:
Where can I buy a dvd/book or something explaining the techniques? i'd be interseted in learning the true techniques

Hal is very nice guy. I met him here, and eventually made a visit to his house, where him and his wife welcomed me. He loves sharing his knowledge and many of AZB members have taken advantage of his teachings.

PM halhoule.

S.
 
Just my humble, know-nothing opinion... but years from now Hal's information will eventually be what is taught by all of these instructors.

Watching the Filipinos play, the majority of the top players use his system--- I can see them do it because I know the subtleties of their tip movements and how they come into shots.

I KNOW Hal is controversial to many because no one posts crap on here as far as the details out of respect for Hal. He posts little cryptic posts that drive people nuts, I'm sure. He may even give out bad info to strange people who call him when he doesn't feel right about the caller.

Someday that will all change, and the information will flow and it will be like a pool renaissance for those who, in some cases, are rightfully skeptical.

Hal is INSISTENT his info is his and not Ralph's, by the way. People, assume it comes from Ralph because of their relationship. He is one brilliant man... I don't doubt it's his at all.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Hal is INSISTENT his info is his and not Ralph's, by the way. People, assume it comes from Ralph because of their relationship. He is one brilliant man... I don't doubt it's his at all.

Actually Hal will tell you, which I am sure he has, that Ralph didn't use a system. Hal described him as a savant when it came to pool.

Did he tell you the story about Ralph with the two wingballs? Hal said he could try that shot a million and never make it. He watched Ralph do it a few times. Incredible.
 
Koop said:
Actually Hal will tell you, which I am sure he has, that Ralph didn't use a system. Hal described him as a savant when it came to pool.

Did he tell you the story about Ralph with the two wingballs? Hal said he could try that shot a million and never make it. He watched Ralph do it a few times. Incredible.

Yes. According to Hal, Ralph was "see ball....make ball" without a clue as to why. When on the road, Hal said there were sometimes "days" in between misses. He thought Ralph was a level above Mosconi, and that either Mosconi (or Brunswick, I forget) tried every attempt to avoid exhibitions between the two because Mosconi was the poster-child.

The 3-cut system is not a Hal system, according to Hal. He called it non-sense (which means means he didn't make it, or he made it and used it for a send-off). I know Hal's system very, very well and I'm familiar with SAM. If Scott said SAM is based off Hal's system...it might be based off "A" system, but not "THE" system.... that's a fact.

P.S. I'm not knocking SAM at all. Just saying the two systems are unrelated.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I know Hal's system very, very well and I'm familiar with SAM. If Scott said SAM is based off Hal's system...it might be based off "A" system, but not "THE" system.... that's a fact.

I agree. Although both Scott and Hal said that SAM was based off his system, it is most definitely not his baby.
 
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