Hal Houle

lfigueroa said:
... what'd *you* do? Drive down to the DCC for the afternoon?! Joey and I were looking all around for you Wednesday to, ah, well, ask you to gamble... if you liked :-)
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Asking people to gamble, huh? I mighta known you and your clique roll like that - where's your class, man?

I arrived Tuesday afternoon and had to leave early Wednesday afternoon because of a work emergency. Grrrrrr... but things were getting pretty rough there anyway by the time I left, with no restaurants open, etc. Just my luck: I drive 250 miles south looking for a few degrees of warmth and arrive at the beginning of their worst ice storm in history (which looked to me like any other snowstorm, BTW). Those Kentuckians (except John The Man Brumback, of course) are wusses.

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Asking people to gamble, huh? I mighta known you and your clique roll like that - where's your class, man?

pj
chgo
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lol. Yeah, pool players looking to gamble. Who'd a thunk it?! How's that thing from "Casablanca" go?

Rick: How can you close me up? On what grounds?
Captain Renault: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
[a croupier hands Renault a pile of money]
Croupier: Your winnings, sir.
Captain Renault: [sotto voce] Oh, thank you very much.
[aloud]
Captain Renault: Everybody out at once!

Lou Figueroa
shocked
 
lfigueroa said:
lol.

Mike offered to gamble with you, "if you liked." He travels all over the country, happy to meet various forum members, not caring a wit whether he's got the best or worst of it. It's just a *courtesy* thing, because some guys don't like to play for funsies. Same with offering to play different games: it's a courtesy.

Lou Figueroa
hates to have
to splain em
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You mean Mike wasn't trying to steal? :D

Mike didn't have to mention the gambling at all but I think a little bit of him wanted to see the best that Dave had to offer. :wink:
JoeyA
 
Craig said:
Thank You, knew it was Hal something, I think I got a book on him I will have to look for it. Thanks
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Hal Mix once called me and politely corrected me. I had made a statement similar to what you had said about him mentoring Nick Varner but a little stronger and he said, "I DID NOT TEACH NICK VARNER HOW TO PLAY POOL". LOL..... He was Nick's traveling partner for a while and helped Nick from time to time with different things but often it was a report on table conditions and player conditions.

This Hal was a nice guy as well. He passed shortly after our conversation but not before he sent me his signed book.

JoeyA
 
lfigueroa said:
lol. Yeah, pool players looking to gamble. Who'd a thunk it?! How's that thing from "Casablanca" go?

Rick: How can you close me up? On what grounds?
Captain Renault: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
[a croupier hands Renault a pile of money]
Croupier: Your winnings, sir.
Captain Renault: [sotto voce] Oh, thank you very much.
[aloud]
Captain Renault: Everybody out at once!

Lou Figueroa
shocked
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Mike could have PMed me, wrote me in another thread, but he didn't. He wanted to throw a shot into a serious thread about Hal's heath.

You guys come along and derail the thread with your retard talk - good job.

Answer me this... are you the father of PJ's baby?
 
Mike could have PMed me, wrote me in another thread, but he didn't. He wanted to throw a shot into a serious thread about Hal's heath.
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I know what you mean. When you're one big button it seems like everybody is always pushing you.

pj
chgo
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Mike could have PMed me, wrote me in another thread, but he didn't. He wanted to throw a shot into a serious thread about Hal's heath.

You guys come along and derail the thread with your retard talk - good job.

Answer me this... are you the father of PJ's baby?
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Dear Mr. Spider

I have some bad news for you: people, sometimes in this world, (brace yourself) don't do what we want them to. Sometimes, they communicate to us in ways we preferred they didn't, or wander from the original topic of a conversation. Shocking, I know. Perhaps someday you'll be able to move on with your life.

Certainly, you could have PM'd me this response -- since it violates your on-topic sensibilities and does nothing to further the central issue of the thread. But, you chose to respond here. Me? I would have preferred you say something like this to me in person :-)

As to Mike's motivation, "He wanted to throw a shot into a serious thread," I believe you are wrong. However, I'm happy to label my opinion "a guess," rather than a certainty, like you. It must be one of your special "spidey" super hero powers to be able to look into the hearts of men and know their motivation. Awesome, Dude!

As to the issue of PJ's parentage: not me, but thanks for asking. I say "thanks for asking" because it makes you look like a horse's pa-toot.

Have a nice day :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
Since he's standing in for PJ for some reason, maybe you can stand-in for me, Joey. I like my horse. Don't forget to come back with your BCA certificate of completion.

I think it was a little smart-assed to ask me to gamble given the tone and seriousness of my thread - I really posted that with my heart. That's par for the course with his clique. *rolling my eyes*
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Wow! I really didn't expect this.

I just got back after being gone for a week and a half with no internet access.

I'm hurt by your reaction, Dave. But I also think I really misjudged the situation and I'm embarrassed that I contacted you publicly.

Here's where my head was at... You and I have spent a TON of time talking about and trying to communicate about aiming ideas on this forum. A theme that's surfaced over and over again is a sense that there are some things that need to be demonstrated at the table.

You sent me a PM in December in which you told me you liked me and that we seemed to approach aiming from very different perspectives. You also told me that you could show me different ways to pivot. I replied that if I ever get in your area, I would definitely try to meet up with you or meet up with Stan if I got that opportunity.

I had just made my flight arrangements to DC for next week, and at the very last minute before leaving the trip I just finished, I logged on and saw your post about Hal. It dawned on me that I would be within 2-3 hours of you (that's close for someone from Fargo) and that I could drive from DC up past Baltimore to meet you.

I can't even count the people I've met up with and played from this forum that I now consider friends -- Bob Jewett, Smorgassbored, Jimbo, Cornerman Fred, Joey A., Andrew Manning, Cory-in-DC, Dan White, Patrick Johnson, Lou Figueroa, John Barton, and the list goes on... I gambled with most of these people, lost to most of those, and whether I won or lost some piddly amount, I think I at least tried to pick up the whole tab for table and food and drinks, etc.

I misjudged the situation with you. I thought of us as members of a fraternity of sorts. Though we have both met with Hal Houle on several occasions--our only person connection that I know of-- we seemed to approach aiming like yin and yang, like C.P. Snow's two cultures, like east and west. What we had in common, I thought, was that we both were intensely interested in the subject, and we both have spent considerable effort trying to sort things out and communicate them to others. I am embarrassed that I arrogantly just assumed you would see meeting me at the table would be an opportunity you would embrace. And apparently, as I now get to see publicly, that is far from true.

One reason I am replying publicly now is that my public invitation prompted some ridicule of BCA instructor certification. And though you may see me as just some nerdy guy with his "certificate of completion," I want to assure others that whether *I* am a worthy disciple or not, there is a wealth of great knowledge about billiards and billiard instruction that passes through the BCA master academies.

I'm sorry for my arrogant presumption. I'm sorry I invited you publicly. I've learned a lesson here.
 
mikepage said:
Wow! I really didn't expect this.

I just got back after being gone for a week and a half with no internet access.

I'm hurt by your reaction, Dave. But I also think I really misjudged the situation and I'm embarrassed that I contacted you publicly.

Here's where my head was at... You and I have spent a TON of time talking about and trying to communicate about aiming ideas on this forum. A theme that's surfaced over and over again is a sense that there are some things that need to be demonstrated at the table.

You sent me a PM in December in which you told me you liked me and that we seemed to approach aiming from very different perspectives. You also told me that you could show me different ways to pivot. I replied that if I ever get in your area, I would definitely try to meet up with you or meet up with Stan if I got that opportunity.

I had just made my flight arrangements to DC for next week, and at the very last minute before leaving the trip I just finished, I logged on and saw your post about Hal. It dawned on me that I would be within 2-3 hours of you (that's close for someone from Fargo) and that I could drive from DC up past Baltimore to meet you.

I can't even count the people I've met up with and played from this forum that I now consider friends -- Bob Jewett, Smorgassbored, Jimbo, Cornerman Fred, Joey A., Andrew Manning, Cory-in-DC, Dan White, Patrick Johnson, Lou Figueroa, John Barton, and the list goes on... I gambled with most of these people, lost to most of those, and whether I won or lost some piddly amount, I think I at least tried to pick up the whole tab for table and food and drinks, etc.

I misjudged the situation with you. I thought of us as members of a fraternity of sorts. Though we have both met with Hal Houle on several occasions--our only person connection that I know of-- we seemed to approach aiming like yin and yang, like C.P. Snow's two cultures, like east and west. What we had in common, I thought, was that we both were intensely interested in the subject, and we both have spent considerable effort trying to sort things out and communicate them to others. I am embarrassed that I arrogantly just assumed you would see meeting me at the table would be an opportunity you would embrace. And apparently, as I now get to see publicly, that is far from true.

One reason I am replying publicly now is that my public invitation prompted some ridicule of BCA instructor certification. And though you may see me as just some nerdy guy with his "certificate of completion," I want to assure others that whether *I* am a worthy disciple or not, there is a wealth of great knowledge about billiards and billiard instruction that passes through the BCA master academies.

I'm sorry for my arrogant presumption. I'm sorry I invited you publicly. I've learned a lesson here.
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Mike,

Based on what you said - I misread your tone. I'm sorry. Sorry for digging the certificate thing - I really thought you were ribbing me with the gambling - since you brought up Patrick as a stand-in.

Will PM you.

dave
 
Sometimes it's hard to read tones by reading the written word. I'm glad that this is straightened out and everyone's back to being friends :)

And back to the focus of the thread:
What a wonderful post, Dave. Hal has contributed so much to so many here. I will keep him in my thoughts and prayers.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Mike,

Based on what you said - I misread your tone. I'm sorry. Sorry for digging the certificate thing - I really thought you were ribbing me with the gambling - since you brought up Patrick as a stand-in.

Will PM you.

dave
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Watch out Dave! It could be a move. :p That Mike Page is crafty.

Remember Mike is not tall and slender like PJ. He's a little more portly. :wink:

JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
Watch out Dave! It could be a move. :p That Mike Page is crafty.

Remember Mike is not tall and slender like PJ. He's a little more portly. :wink:

JoeyA
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Hmmm.... Are you thinking I need to lose a little weight, Joey?
 
mikepage said:
splains it all to Spider...
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Good Lou: Don't do it, man.

Bad Lou: Oh, but, but, this is just too sweet to pass up.

Good Lou: No. Don't. Be the better person. Let it go.

Bad Lou: But think of the slam dunk you could do on this -- it'd make the ESPN highlight reel.

Good Lou: NO. Just take a deep breath and step away from the computer. Go open another thread. No need to kick a man when he's down.

Bad Lou: (sigh) Well, alright.

Lou Figueroa
;-)
 
lfigueroa said:
Good Lou: Don't do it, man.

Bad Lou: Oh, but, but, this is just too sweet to pass up.

Good Lou: No. Don't. Be the better person. Let it go.

Bad Lou: But think of the slam dunk you could do on this -- it'd make the ESPN highlight reel.

Good Lou: NO. Just take a deep breath and step away from the computer. Go open another thread. No need to kick a man when he's down.

Bad Lou: (sigh) Well, alright.

Lou Figueroa
;-)
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By all means, slam it Lou. Bring down the glass.
 
I know what you mean.... especially when I have a doozy comin' back at ya that would prob lock the thread.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I know what you mean.... especially when I have a doozy comin' back at ya that would prob lock the thread.
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Well see that's the problem: you don't get it.

Any idiot can post something to get a thread locked or deleted. That's beyond easy, and frankly, dumb.

And only a real dufus would think doing that constitutes "a doozy."

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
Well see that's the problem: you don't get it.

Any idiot can post something to get a thread locked or deleted. That's beyond easy, and frankly, dumb.

And only a real dufus would think doing that constitutes "a doozy."

Lou Figueroa
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Ya see...you don't get it. You're a trouble-maker....instigating trouble in a dead thread that had a really serious meaning. Mike posted something about a post I made earlier, and I replied. We spoke on the phone for a while and everything's resolved. Case closed. Without that, this thread was long dead and wasn't in need of a Lou "slam-dunk."

Mike and I made our peace and had a great conversation and will likely meet to play....and here out of left-field rides in Lou Figueroa cocking off like he's gotta hold back slam dunk insults.

*rolling my eyes*

Dave
 
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