Hal said:
This is the full story of what happened to me:
I received a PM from Mike saying that Shorty and I had taken an even number of shots at each other.
What a load of horse shit. Mike must not play 9-ball because he does not know how to ****ing count. Lets break down the thread.
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Post # 15
Shorty said:
HA HA, you really should try standup with some of the prices you come up with Hal.
TOTALLY out of the blue. TOTALLY undeserved.
Post #24
Shorty said:
I don't agree considering Matt Staton had the cue on here for sale a few days ago for 500 and no one even offered him a trade or anything.
Do you mean Hal is that much higher up in the "Posse" that he gets what he wants?
Notice, Hal has not even responded yet and Shorty has once attacked the price and NOW attacks the man with his snide "posse" comment.
Post #26
Hal said:
No shit. He sticks his short little nose into almost every thread with these smart ass comments about what it's worth, how to sell it, how to use ebay, etc. I'm through with him.
Finally Hal responds, and it is not directly to Shorty but instead as a response to Rodney basically agreeing with him and stating that Shorty is in fact guilty of what he claims which is evidenced by Shorty's first two unwarranted posts. NOTHING he said in this post was a attack of any sort, he was simply stating obvious facts. And dont get me started with the "short" comment. Noone has played on his height and used it to his advantage more then Shorty himself.
Post #29
Shorty said:
Same reason you do...cause you are a member of the "posse" and have to stick up for your fellow "posse" member.
Right? I have every bit of right to tell people they are getting ripped off for buying this cue for $600 that you do for telling people what a wonderful value this is for only $600.
So far Hal has not even directly addressed Shorty and Shorty himself is already on post number three. "Posse" accusations flying. At this point every person/member of this forum is telling him to STFU and sees his posts as wrong. Hal has done NOTHING wrong to this stage.
Post # 31
Hal said:
Hey Shorty. I bought a Schon LTD from Erik Lee for $550.00 I put it on ebay for $1,000 After the auction ended, I got a cash offer for $880.00 I bet that REALLY pisses you off.
OK, so this was a jibe. But you know what its NOT? A personal attack of any sort. It is simply a amusing statement at this point due to Shorty's antics on the thread. Shorty brought himself into the whole mess and refused to shut up. It took alot of posts before Hal even posts this non-aggresive somewhat funny post.
Post #32
Shorty said:
No, that means there is another idiot in this world besides yourself...and I recommend you both go cheer the VOLS on.
Bingo, Shorty did not like the non-personal attack so now he calls Hal an idiot, the "posse" remarks were ignorant, but this post was flat out rude and the first personal attack on the thread. Grats to Shorty for leading the way.
Post #33
Hal said:
Speaking of idiots. Did you ever receive the "FREE" Hercek cue that you asked Joel to stop his current jobs and build immediately for you? In return, I'm sure you would use it in wheelchair tournaments and give him a good name. What a dork!
I'm a little more connected in this world than one might think.
It took Hal a LONG time to get personal and he ONLY did so in response to Shorty's initial attack. Hal got called an "idiot", he returned that comment with his own "dork". He has so far not been the aggressor in this entire thread, he has counterpunched only to Shorty's initial attacks. As people said, I guess attacking people is ok on this forum, defending yourself is not.
Post #34
Shorty said:
Then why don't you own one of his cues if you two are such buddies?
I don't have a clue what you are talking about by the way...but if I want a Hercek, I will go buy a Hercek.
Not much to say about this, a simple response. This is about as non-aggressive as most of Hal's early posts when he was under fire from Shorty.
Post #35
Hal said:
Why don't you call him (again) I'm sure he'd love to hear from you...
Much akin to Shorty's above post. A simple response. He alludes to something, Shorty feigns ignorance, all the rest of us remain clueless as to the truth.
Post #37
Hal said:
That's funny. You must REALLY be a jerk to have someone say that about you. I've never been one to bash people, but enough is enough.
This was in response to Buddah162's post of "I know one thing for a fact: One cuemaker, while handing over a cue to his dealer, had only the following stipulation: "Do NOT sell this cue to Shorty."" Seems AZB is not the only place Shorty is making enemies and stirring up shit. Not surprising since he is causing this forum to become akin to a toilet boil full of his own makings.
Post #38
Shorty said:
I don't know what you two are talking about Hal and buddha, I am honestly trying to remember.
The only contact I may have had with Joel was a couple years back I did email a couple cuemakers seeing who could make me a cue. I seem to recall Joel having a long wait, like 6 years. I said thank you and no I don't want to be on your list. That was all...
This other non-sense is just childish. I have way too many good dealings with other people on here, along with perfect feedback on eBay, to let the two of you drag my name through the mud. If someone has a beef with me, email me at
kidshark@yahoo.com and let's take this up in private offline...if you got the balls.
More feigning of ignorance. Based on his extremely strong opinion and argumentative nature my money is on the fact there is some truth in the claims. Plus, NOW he wants to talk via Email? He was the one who started all this crap on the public forum, he is the one who started the trash talking and bullshit, and NOW he wants to go to email? "if you got the balls." Hal was not the one with the beef on this thread, anyone can read back on the thread or this post and see it is Shorty.
Post #50
Hal said:
Uh...That's what we were doing until you butted in.
A response to Mystick cue fan who asks to not be attacked in response to his attacks. Cute. He was just, and I quote "sticking up for the short guy". Somewhat understandable, Shorty has played up his lot in life to maximum effect and made sure that is garners sympathy so he can go about being an ass while having the blinders over many people, including the mod of this forum.
Post #53
Hal said:
The ONLY person I have a problem with on this board is Shorty. In my opinion, If you're not interested in a cue you shouldn't knock a guys action. I've got the cue marked up high. Big deal. I'm trying to make some cash. My intent is to wheel and deal myself up to a Bluegrass or Gina or something like that. Each cue I get is a little more valuable. Is that so wrong? Isn't that what most people try to do? I've got the funds to buy a Joss West or Mottey or a Hercek right now. I've also got a wife that will beat me with a Cuetec if I do it. I have to sneak up on them if I'm ever going to own one.
NOTHING wrong with this post and you know what, it basically sums up the whole thread. There is nothing wrong with Hal and what he is doing and he does not deserve to be attacked by a member of this forum with "posse" claims and being called an "idiot" previous to him EVER getting personal back. He was NOT the aggressor at any point in this thread.
Post #57
Hal said:
Yeah I did that. It was an offer. You rejected it.
Nothing post response to "The Beginner" on a cue sale. I am posting all responses by the two so that this is complete.
Post #63
Hal said:
I was given my final warning by azhousepro this morning. Any future comments towards Shorty and I'll be banned. I have made a public offer to trade the Kenny Murrell back to Matt Staton in exchange for the Espiritu.
LMAO. Are you kidding me? AZhousepro, I suggest you read all the comments from shorty and Hal at this point, I cleaned up all of it for you. Hal NEVER initiated the attacks in that thread, he was on the defense the ENTIRE time. NOTHING he did deserved a warning for anything, a man is justified to stick up for himself, even if he is not short and in a wheelchair. That you could read what I have now quoted as the entire dialogue between the two in order and actually see Hal at fault is asinine. Get your eyes checked.
Post #75
Shorty said:
So how the Cubs doing this year? Maybe it's there year this year eh?
Never one to shy away from a snide remark Shorty holds true to form and now attempts to fish for a Hal comment and get him banned. Reminds me of his extremely ignorant and classless "when ya getting out of jail DM?" thread he made when he got DM suspended. He clearly lives for this shit, stirring up trouble and getting people banned like a little rat.
Post #77
Shorty said:
Ignore list is such a wonderful feature...I recommend some of you try it sometime.
Oh Hal, good luck with your auction there...I see you are overwhelmed with bidders.
Well, it seems that Shorty was NOT given the same warning that Hal was despite instigating the entire ****ing threads heated argument. More rubbing the salt in the wound by the one who does it SO often. I am shocked, well, no, not really. What really shocks me is that AZhousepro can not see clearly this bullshit mind game Shorty is playing on him and the rest of the forum.
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That’s the entire thread of posts by both Shorty and Hal. Hal was NEVER the aggressor. He was constantly on the defensive from one of the most aggressive, snide, shit starters this message board has ever seen. How does Azhousepro read all of that and then ban Hal? I have no ****ing clue, I think he needs to get his eyes checked or learn to ****ing read. We have a retarded board nazi in control of this forum. It was not always that way, he used to know what the **** he was doing and make smart and just decisions. Now he has been glimmered by a short guy in a wheel chair and would let the guy get away with murder and take this whole forum down to the sewer.
This board does not need people like Shorty chasing away truly valuable members who actually contribute. About 80% of the people on Hal’s thread defended Hal and thought Shorty was way out of line, Azhousepro goes with the extreme minority and bans Hal like a true board nazi who does not give a flying **** about this community or message board.
Who knows, maybe I will be banned, maybe he will delete this post. Tough shit for him though, I am saving it all on Word and if I do get banned due to this trust me I will be cut and pasting it on EVERY pool forum on the internet to show what a garbage heap Mike is making this once great pool forum into. I have been a member of this forum for years and years, since before it was even a Vbulletin, it was a crappy threaded forum with crappy software and I was Irish, one of the few members he had back in those days. I can look back at them as the good ole days because as this board has grown Mike has gotten FAR worse at being a mod and is making simply stupid decisions.
If I am indeed banned Jjinfla, we have a $25 bet on Allison and Karen in 2006, it is still on. Onepocketchump, we have a $25 bet on Allison and Karen vs Tyler and Edwin, it is still on, and Kelly Fisher for a drink. I will hang out abit on the BD forums. If Mike gets smart and does NOT ban be realizing I am totally right then all is good. He would do best to unban DM and Hal OR ban Shorty though to at least show he is impartial, because he is sure as hell not showing that right now.
But Dm was an idiot at times and didn't get banned for posting knowledge, but I think you knew that. Believe me I can be as big of an ass as him at times, I just don't have a bunch of Homos who will cry when I'm gone like you clowns. Keep the fan club going though you guys crack me up, maybe you should organize a rally LOL.
