Hard and Soft Break Tip?

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Friend had the local retail pool store re-tip his break stick with a tip that was “hard on the edges and softer in the middle”. Claimed it handled well and resisted mushrooming. I asked if he knew the brand name – but he had failed to ask.

I’m still a newbie to this world and still gathering knowledge/information. Anyone know of a commercially available tip like this? Brand?

Thanks again for this group’s patience and guidance.
Ken
 
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Traditionally most people use a very hard tip for breaking. I've never heard of such a tip. They do now make tips that are specifically made for breaking and gives control too.
 
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Thanks for the input folks! I was not aware of a "multiple hardness" tip on the market - used to the standard classifications and Hardness numbers. Wasn't sure if I had missed an industry innovation or my friend got sold a "bill of goods".
Thanks again for the info!
 
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kgoods said:
The Icebreaker from Tiger has a leather center with phenolic around it.
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Yes Sir
That's been around longer than Tiger has!
 

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Michael Webb said:
No disrespect intended from me.
I just don't know who's who or who knows what on here anymore.
This section has been a crap shoot for quite a while now.
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Not an issue at all Mike. I have great respect for you , your work and the way you handle yourself on AZ. It can be a mine field at times... Better back in the early days., IMO..

My experience is with finishes not building cues. Yachts were my apprenticeship. That was in the 70's.. My wife is a retired principal scientist. Her specialty was formulations of new products. So between the two of us we have a lot of knowledge combined with real experience..

I finished one of my cues with methyl isocyanate catalyzed auto clear... The ivory joint was .850 inches before finishing and .862 after finishing and curing. The depth of finish and gloss is outstanding.. It has been rubbed out with rubbing oil pumice then rottenstone three times. The measurement after the last rubbing is now down to .859 inches... Depth of the finish is important to me...
 
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Quesports said:
Not an issue at all Mike. I have great respect for you , your work and the way you handle yourself on AZ. It can be a mine field at times... Better back in the early days., IMO..

My experience is with finishes not building cues. Yachts were my apprenticeship. That was in the 70's.. My wife is a retired principal scientist. Her specialty was formulations of new products. So between the two of us we have a lot of knowledge combined with real experience..

I finished one of my cues with methyl isocyanate catalyzed auto clear... The ivory joint was .850 inches before finishing and .862 after finishing and curing. The depth of finish and gloss is outstanding.. It has been rubbed out with rubbing oil pumice then rottenstone three times. The measurement after the last rubbing is now down to .859 inches... Depth of the finish is important to me...
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Thank you
Finish is HUGE!
When someone looks at a cue.
The first thing noticed is the design.
Next the feel of the wrap area and finish.
I say it often to newer builders.
You spent all this time crossing your T"s and dotting your I's
Building the cue.
WHY?????
Do you insist on putting the finish on in an hour?
The secret to a deep looking finish is.
There is no secret. It's steps and you can't skip any!
 
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Michael Webb said:
Thank you
Finish is HUGE!
When someone looks at a cue.
The first thing noticed is the design.
Next the feel of the wrap area and finish.
I say it often to newer builders.
You spent all this time crossing your T"s and dotting your I's
Building the cue.
WHY?????
Do you insist on putting the finish on in an hour?
The secret to a deep looking finish is.
There is no secret. It's steps and you can't skip any!
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I spent years and paid my dues along the way learning every single trick from the best finishers I could work with.

Joe Gold was a painting contractor on the North Shore before he ever built a cue. The night I met him we were in his shop chatting about finishes. I then described how high gloss varnish is applied to the transom of a large yacht while it is in the water.

It is super difficult to do, takes a team of master finishers working in tandem. One guy was named Neil. He was hands down the best in the Ft. Lauderdale area. Never made a mistake. I noticed something peculiar he was doing and asked him about it.

He smiled and said on Friday after work were going to Butch Cassidy's saloon, come along.
We go down and tells me I am buying his beers if I want any info from him. So we are hanging out and I am spending my paycheck. Finally he pulls me aside and tells me his brushing technique and explains why and how it works.. I knew the minute he explained it that it was genius.

Well I shared that with Joe Gold. He jumped up shook my hand and knew immediately what I told him was spot on. We have been friends since..

Sometimes you can't learn from the books. You got to put in your time, sand till your fingertips bleed, and learn the hard way.. My fingerprints are permanently destroyed from years of sanding. Learned that getting a CC permit once years ago..
 
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