Hard Times Tables have unique history, they are Pool History, if the tables could talk, the stories they could tell.
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Hard Times Tables have unique history, they are Pool History, if the tables could talk, the stories they could tell.
Since you don't know, you won't understand.
Playing for 5 inch trophies isn't the same as playing for your bankroll. Neither is running out on a 6.5 foot valley with a $30 ball set versus a tight 9 foot table
I don't know one good player who didn't learn the right way, from people who know how to play on tough equipment and playing games that challenged them. Locking up against a housewife for that trip to Vegas isn't going to get you there.
Look pretty soon , maybe the league guys win... but long as I'm around I'm gonna say bet and they will come up with excuses to stay on the porch.
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Because league pool killed what was left of the game.
I have the best players in the country in my poolhall...league players don't even come watch. Most don't even care about improving. The ones who can play a little think they are world-beaters, but won't ever get in the box.
League pool is a cult...bunch of people who need to belong to something...even if it's based on nothing but a corporation telling them what they want to hear.
Because league pool killed what was left of the game.
I have the best players in the country in my poolhall...league players don't even come watch. Most don't even care about improving. The ones who can play a little think they are world-beaters, but won't ever get in the box.
League pool is a cult...bunch of people who need to belong to something...even if it's based on nothing but a corporation telling them what they want to hear.
No offense, but what you’re describing about a hardcore group of pool fanatics “getting in the box” with other hardcore gamblers and pool bums while judging and looking down upon people trying to have a good time sounds much more like a cult than a casual league for amateurs.
Not exactly a welcoming stance for bringing up the next generation of players.
It is sad, maybe even tragic that this part of pool seems to be dying away. But you should stop lashing out at people who had no part in making it happen, other than declining to participate in favor of something more inviting and casual and appropriate to their skill level.
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Anyone know if tables are still in the building?
Hard Times was during a time when pool had been revitalized by the movie "The Hustler." It was during a time when compulsive gamblers could find easy, frequent action. It was a time before Indian gambling casinos, a time before the Internet stole and distributed the pictures and descriptions of road players a time when stakehorses were in more abundance a time in the past. It was definitely a time of excitement and anticipation of legends showing up and people going "off." It was a time of "The Wild, Wild West." It was a time we sadly will probably never see, hear or feel again,
Hard Times was during a time when pool had been revitalized by the movie "The Hustler." It was during a time when compulsive gamblers could find easy, frequent action. It was a time before Indian gambling casinos, a time before the Internet stole and distributed the pictures and descriptions of road players a time when stakehorses were in more abundance a time in the past. It was definitely a time of excitement and anticipation of legends showing up and people going "off." It was a time of "The Wild, Wild West." It was a time we sadly will probably never see, hear or feel again,
That was my point. If you couldn't get a license where you were at, anyone would think you would move to where you could.
Sad, but it seems just common sense to me.
Ken
The city of Los Angeles hates pool halls and makes getting them permitted very difficult. This reality combined with sky high rental rates makes setting up a profitable establishment very difficult in LA.
What you see is long term ownership type of establishments ( where the real estate is owned ) being the ones that last because of prop 13, which they are going to try and overturn for commercial properties on the Nov. ballot.
No. I don't compromise.
Why would I want something more inviting and casual which is settling for a corporate run shadow of what pool is at it's greatest? National leagues are just in it for the money.
Have not heard that Term for a long time, Prop 13, Jarvis - Gann unitive. Froze property taxes, on single family homes. As long as you did not make major changes, ex wife had home in Burbank, CA.
When she sold it for $900K her property tax was still $300.00ish a year, when it sold New Owner got slammed on property taxes.
Most commercial tenants pay the taxes so if they overturn prop 13 then their effective lease rates go up a lot .
On top of the covid depression this could be really bad.
I guess it was one final hurrah the past couple weeks. To be honest, it's fine by me. Hard Times is a shadow of its former self, not really caring about their patrons at all. A buddy of mine was at the First Sunday 9B Tourney a couple weeks ago and he said he had to leave after his 3rd match because his t shirt was drenched in sweat; no AC on. I hope they relocate because we don't have many pool halls in SoCal anymore but if it is going to be much of the same, it's probably best it dies.
I think people should stop putting blame on league players. Those people are there to have a good time out on a random day of the week. There is no need to look down on them just because they do not take the game seriously as others do.
As for HT closing, I've never been there and chances are I woul dhave never made it, but good luck to whatever it is the owners will do with it.
As for HT closing, I've never been there and chances are I woul dhave never made it, but good luck to whatever it is the owners will do with it.
Hard Times closing will water down big time pool in So Cal. Those GC1 and 2s located there will probably be sold if Eddie cannot relocate anytime soon. Locations with enough parking and reasonable rent will be hard to find. Drip by drip pool losing its presence in So Cal.
So many commercial tenants in S. California are currently not paying rent. So there will be opportunities in the future. The question is, is there demand for pool halls?
The demographic is aging.
I never made it there
but I would have liked to
even just knowing it was there was a comfort
bastions of billiards should be buoyed
so when they sink
it makes me sad..
so much great history
"if that felt could talk"
good thing we can tho
and listen...
rest easy, hard times bellflower~
but I would have liked to
even just knowing it was there was a comfort
bastions of billiards should be buoyed
so when they sink
it makes me sad..
so much great history
"if that felt could talk"
good thing we can tho
and listen...
rest easy, hard times bellflower~
Came into Hard Times today at opening to
play some one pocket with a friend.
We got to play a couple hours,
before it was announced that the city called and told them they had to close immediately.
They're not sure for how long, but doors are officially closed as of today.
play some one pocket with a friend.
We got to play a couple hours,
before it was announced that the city called and told them they had to close immediately.
They're not sure for how long, but doors are officially closed as of today.