Hardest table? 10-4,5 pockets or 9-4.
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New cloth, the 9 ft'r isn't that bad. You still have to hit air on that tight of a pocket though. I think the 10 ft is tougher. I haven't played on one though. I feel the distance and reach complications invite a whole new animal. Also 9 ft tables are often played on by most all players. You get use to how a shot looks and has turned out before. The 10 ft'r to most would have some shots that are a lil mysterious lets say. The learning curve makes it a tougher table.
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I would say the 9'er w/ 4" pockets is tougher all day long. I occasionally play 6-ball on a 10' snooker table (with the big balls) and I don't find the length to be that big a factor. Those tiny pockets, and especially those damn rounded corners, are what frustrate me.
I think a 9' table w/ 4.25" pockets would be more comparable to a 10' w/ 4.5" pockets. Possibly even an 1/8th" difference may be a better comparison.
I imagine there is a mathematician somewhere here on AZB that could devise a formula to calculate the various angles and situations that would give us a supportable solution but, I don't have the mental capacity for that personally.
I would say the 9'er w/ 4" pockets is tougher all day long. I occasionally play 6-ball on a 10' snooker table (with the big balls) and I don't find the length to be that big a factor. Those tiny pockets, and especially those damn rounded corners, are what frustrate me.
I think a 9' table w/ 4.25" pockets would be more comparable to a 10' w/ 4.5" pockets. Possibly even an 1/8th" difference may be a better comparison.
I imagine there is a mathematician somewhere here on AZB that could devise a formula to calculate the various angles and situations that would give us a supportable solution but, I don't have the mental capacity for that personally.
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Wow, 2 posts and all green! You must have impressed someone but, I'll bet it wasn't the female posters on here!
Strictly by pocket proportions only it would be the 9 footer by a nose.
10 / 4.5 = 9 / X
Solving for X gives X = 4.05. Therefore, the 9 footer with 4" pockets (i.e., less than 4.05") would be harder than the 10 footer with 4.5" pockets.
Heck, call it a tie (especially since the 10 footer would play a bit harder in general due to reach issues, etc.).
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I agree. The unfamiliar nature of the ten foot table would only be temporary and frankly I'm not sure the increased use of the bridge or having to stretch unnaturally for more shots is either fun for the players or more enjoyable for spectators.
Simply put, the increase in difficulty for some shots on a ten footer does not offset the increased difficulty for ALL shots on a the tighter 9 footer.
This formula makes sense, but only if the ball size decreased at the same rate as the pockets. I'm not a mathematician but you're not getting off that easy!
4 1/2 x9 vs 10
Regardless of the small difference in the 10 foot pocket I think you will find that it is a harder table. while you can fan out more for shape, playing with rakes and constant stretching is something that is only overcome by a lot of practice. I play on a 10 foot snooker table and when I hit a 4 1/2 x 9 it is like shooting ducks in a barrel. The great equalizer is developing patterns,cue ball control and strategy and of course it depends on the game. ie/ Snooker is very hard on a 4 x8 or n a 4 1/x by 9 because you have very little room to manouver. It is tough on a 5 x 10. I don't think you will ever find anyone play14.1 on a 6 x 12. Other games are pretty hard on a 5 x 10 and I think that is why the pros changed 45 years ago to a smaller size. I am sure that depending on individual ability many people can adapt. Interesting post and I am anxious to hear other opinions. Perhaps I am wrong. Good luck to all!
Regardless of the small difference in the 10 foot pocket I think you will find that it is a harder table. while you can fan out more for shape, playing with rakes and constant stretching is something that is only overcome by a lot of practice. I play on a 10 foot snooker table and when I hit a 4 1/2 x 9 it is like shooting ducks in a barrel. The great equalizer is developing patterns,cue ball control and strategy and of course it depends on the game. ie/ Snooker is very hard on a 4 x8 or n a 4 1/x by 9 because you have very little room to manouver. It is tough on a 5 x 10. I don't think you will ever find anyone play14.1 on a 6 x 12. Other games are pretty hard on a 5 x 10 and I think that is why the pros changed 45 years ago to a smaller size. I am sure that depending on individual ability many people can adapt. Interesting post and I am anxious to hear other opinions. Perhaps I am wrong. Good luck to all!