Hate to admit it, but at one point I had a ball in my hand and THOUGHT about using his head as a durometer. Thankfully, better judgment prevailed.crawfish said:
Have to get this off my chest - sorry for the rant
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Johnnyt, I think you are correct. I think he really believed it was the 2nd game. Don't know what clouded his mind, but I guess something did.Johnnyt said:
There was no coin? Was there ever a coin?
I have to disagree with those that think it is impossible to forget the score even a one zero score. I was playing some sets just the other day (funsy) and we had no coins. We both forgot the score multiple times. I cant count the number of times I've said "Was that the first game?"
What happens a lot is you start counting a game that you should win and then you lose it last second but in your mind you've given yourself '5' or whatever so many times if it isnt clarified at game end, an argument is coming.
I have to disagree with those that think it is impossible to forget the score even a one zero score. I was playing some sets just the other day (funsy) and we had no coins. We both forgot the score multiple times. I cant count the number of times I've said "Was that the first game?"
What happens a lot is you start counting a game that you should win and then you lose it last second but in your mind you've given yourself '5' or whatever so many times if it isnt clarified at game end, an argument is coming.
I agree with what you have said. When he first said it was the second game, I wouldn't have staked my life, at that moment, that he was wrong. It was only after I gave it some thought that I knew I had not broken the balls that game. Heck, I'm 67, so I know about having memory problems at times. When I have played too long (for me, 5-6 hours or more is too long), I may forget which pocket is mine!Nostroke said:
crawfish said:
you are hilarious, that's how I used to like to handle things!! I mean any little conflict too...HEY LADY YOU CUT IN FRONT OF ME (at the supermarket)!! Whap, loaf of french bread upside her head. I have a million mental pictures of peoples' faces during/after such encounters, and LAUGH everytime my brain recalls one (or in this case, your post jogs MY memory).
<<<--- happy that he doesn't react like that anymore, yet kinda misses it at times!!
thanks for the laugh
BillPorter said:
Sounds like pot. Losing track of time, mis-remembering recent events, becoming confused by your comment about how many you had and how many he had. These all sound like common behaviors of someone under a THC influence.
-Andrew
playing a long and grinding game of one pocket can get you a little dizzy. i have even shot at the wrong hole before because the game had gone on and on. it sounds like he just got a little confused. i really do not think he was pulling a move to just get $20 from you. especially someone that you know and have played many times. were you marking games with a coin or balls on a string or anything?
My take
I think the fact that he purposefully stood in your line of sight while you were getting ready to shoot the game winning ball should tell you something here.
I am not sure I would be anxiuos to play the guy again even if it is for cheap sets. Sounds like he was looking for all kinds of reasons to win rather than just fess up to an error in counting. In the long run the problems will be worse than what the action was worth.
Kevin
I think the fact that he purposefully stood in your line of sight while you were getting ready to shoot the game winning ball should tell you something here.
I am not sure I would be anxiuos to play the guy again even if it is for cheap sets. Sounds like he was looking for all kinds of reasons to win rather than just fess up to an error in counting. In the long run the problems will be worse than what the action was worth.
Kevin
We would normally mark the games with a coin. The fact that there was no coin on the table was one of my points in trying to get him to realize that we had played only one game. Like several of the people who responded to this thread, I now believe that he honestly thought it was our second game, at least initially. It still seems as though he should have realized his mistake once it was pointed out.Ironman317 said:
Losing track of the money ball
Fridays at my regular hall attracts all the regulars. It's fun night. We play partner's 9B, a silly little $1 on the 5B, $2 on the 9B. We consume a snootful of beer, Jaegar and whatever else. We play on GCIII's and we track the score on the wheel. We have a blast.
But without fail, at some point, the nine is down, he who left him out racks and looks at the wheel... So here's how it goes:
Racker: "Who made the 5 ball?"
In unison the other 3 players scratch their head.
Breaker: "What pocket was it found in?"
Racker: "I forget dude, you rolled me most of the balls."
Sitting player: "Didn't Joe make it in the side?"
Other sitting player: "No way man! Joe scratched on the 3. Who had BIH on the 4?"
On and on.....
Anyway, you get the pic. We all know each other well enuf to know that no one is gonna lie on a small wager and risk losing face. Seems like a similar situation here on the OP. I'd file it under "give him a pass on this one" and start with the coin next time.
Fridays at my regular hall attracts all the regulars. It's fun night. We play partner's 9B, a silly little $1 on the 5B, $2 on the 9B. We consume a snootful of beer, Jaegar and whatever else. We play on GCIII's and we track the score on the wheel. We have a blast.
But without fail, at some point, the nine is down, he who left him out racks and looks at the wheel... So here's how it goes:
Racker: "Who made the 5 ball?"
In unison the other 3 players scratch their head.
Breaker: "What pocket was it found in?"
Racker: "I forget dude, you rolled me most of the balls."
Sitting player: "Didn't Joe make it in the side?"
Other sitting player: "No way man! Joe scratched on the 3. Who had BIH on the 4?"
On and on.....
Anyway, you get the pic. We all know each other well enuf to know that no one is gonna lie on a small wager and risk losing face. Seems like a similar situation here on the OP. I'd file it under "give him a pass on this one" and start with the coin next time.
Bill,
I feel your pain, believe me... you wouldn't dream of how bad it is with some one pocket players.
It is the same during tournament. Guys forget the ball count, score, who's got what in the tray (ball return tables) and sometimes as unbelievable as it seems, while the two players are sitting in the chair, they both forget who's turn it is.
California... the granola state.... fruits, flakes and NUTs.
It's always an adventure.
I feel your pain, believe me... you wouldn't dream of how bad it is with some one pocket players.
It is the same during tournament. Guys forget the ball count, score, who's got what in the tray (ball return tables) and sometimes as unbelievable as it seems, while the two players are sitting in the chair, they both forget who's turn it is.
California... the granola state.... fruits, flakes and NUTs.
It's always an adventure.
Old age ???
Hey there folks my first post:
I was playing 8 ball a couple of days ago, Made a really good shot and got perfect position. My opponent says, hey that's my ball. Wow, how did I do that. A few minutes later next game about the same thing, another good shot and position, but again wrong ball. I do have an excuse, I am 76 and I hadn't had my daily nap. I still managed to win the game!!
Hey there folks my first post:
I was playing 8 ball a couple of days ago, Made a really good shot and got perfect position. My opponent says, hey that's my ball. Wow, how did I do that. A few minutes later next game about the same thing, another good shot and position, but again wrong ball. I do have an excuse, I am 76 and I hadn't had my daily nap. I still managed to win the game!!
If you had been there to referee the match, all would have been well! For those who don't know Tom, he is a tournament director and referee and excellent at both.Tom In Cincy said:
Ordinarily I would say that yes that is possible. The clinching fact in this case was that I made the game winner (and the other 7 balls) in the pocket I would have never had if I had broken the rack. Since there was no doubt that my opponent had broken the first game, the game I won had to be our first game.dabarbr said:
I was just funning you. By the way you described the game it I believe you knew exactly that it was the first game.BillPorter said:
Once I played a guy one pocket, a race to 4. We played winner break. He won the toss, broke the balls and won the first two games. He broke again and tried to move his coin to 3. His argument was that he broke three times so he had three games won. I had the hardest time trying to explain to him that he did not get credit for a win of a game by winning the flip of the coin for the first game.
Sometimes, like your opponent, they get confused and there's no reasoning.
I guess most of us have had those arguments where something that it totally, blindingly clear to us seems to be difficult for another to comprehend. You just want to pull your hair and scream, "Look, this is OBVIOUS and should be clear to a SIX YEAR OLD!!!" I guess the only thing that is surprising here is that we keep being surprised when it happens. Seems like we would eventually learn that this is the human condition and just say to ourselves, "OK, here is another one of those situations -nothing to do but just move on."dabarbr said: