Have you ever felt like a new cue instantly improved the level of your game?

Never felt that way ever. Now, did my game actually get better with a new cue. Yep.

Put on an OB shaft, and suddenly I was using inside English a lot better, and was "rattling'" a lot less balls on certain shots with running English.

Now, if you don't have the above problems cause you mastered it with a maple shaft, more power to ya. But, I just was never adjusting consistently for long shots with inside and in some cases with running.

I'll never go back to maple. It's night and day for me now. So, for a lousy $200 I play better, and that shaft will last 5 years or 10, but most likely 20 year or more. I don't know. I've had it for 4 already.... and not a problem, straight as an arrow and smooth as silk.

I know folks "HATE" spending $200 on a shaft even though all cuemakers on the planet charge from $100 to $300. It's just equipment to me, heck, if OB shafts only lasted one season, I'd still buy a new one every year. I use to buy multiple baseball bats every year at $100 a pop. But lucky for me, there are no inside fastballs in pool.

And as Obama always said, "if you like your maple shaft, you can keep your maple shaft ;)
 
So Funny!

Never felt that way ever. Now, did my game actually get better with a new cue. Yep.

Put on an OB shaft, and suddenly I was using inside English a lot better, and was "rattling'" a lot less balls on certain shots with running English.

Now, if you don't have the above problems cause you mastered it with a maple shaft, more power to ya. But, I just was never adjusting consistently for long shots with inside and in some cases with running.

I'll never go back to maple. It's night and day for me now. So, for a lousy $200 I play better, and that shaft will last 5 years or 10, but most likely 20 year or more. I don't know. I've had it for 4 already.... and not a problem, straight as an arrow and smooth as silk.

I know folks "HATE" spending $200 on a shaft even though all cuemakers on the planet charge from $100 to $300. It's just equipment to me, heck, if OB shafts only lasted one season, I'd still buy a new one every year. I use to buy multiple baseball bats every year at $100 a pop. But lucky for me, there are no inside fastballs in pool.

And as Obama always said, "if you like your maple shaft, you can keep your maple shaft ;)

Thats some funny stuff. I always thought squirt and swerve were Obama's fault!

I used to go up to Tom Simpsons house and play One Pocket all day with him and he had several different types of LD shafts because he was a product tester and seller.A few months before he passed I would start the day out with the regular maple on what I was playing with and then the last couple of hours would switch over to LD and omg. When you've been used to compensating for squirt and all of a sudden you know that very little adjustment is due if any, it can make a huge difference in your game. So I have to agree with the above quote, especially for a new player. I dont profess any shaft maker over another when it comes to LD's because the hit that you like is more important but the playing end is awesome.
 
I had a cheap Meucci that I bought off Ebay that fit my style of play very well. I gave it to my son when his equipment was damaged in a fire nine years ago. He still plays with it and is very satisfied with it. I've played with it since I gave it to him, and I still shoot at the top of my game with it.
I bought a Titlist conversion at the SBE six, eight years ago. It had an ivory joint and buttcap and came with two shafts with ivory ferrules didn't play bad, but I bought an OB1 for it also. With that combination, I'd have to say, I probably played some of the best pool I've ever played. Shame I bought it after I was already knocked out of the tournament:( Next day I noticed the shaft had a pretty good dent in it. I took it to one of the cue repair people there, I won't name him, but he was one of the better ones there. He proceeds to take the dent out and part of the process was smoothing the shaft out with emory paper. Well, because of the hardness of the dissimilar wood in the shaft, there were ridges in the shaft. He didn't have a lot of experience working with this particular shaft due to they had only been of the market a short time. I took it to OB and they replaced it. The replacement shaft didn't come close to playing the same, back to my usual inconsistent level of play:rolleyes:
Those are the only two cues I feel have changed the quality of my play in a positive way so that it was so different that I noticed it right away. There are "magic" cues out there!! The quest continues:groucho:
 
I had a few cues in my life that made me feel that way. I had a high end Pechauer for about 8 years & really liked it. I had other nice Cues too & played with them often.

Then one day a cue came in the mail. Guido Orlandi had made me a cue. It had his new Conical Joint in it & seemed like it said "Hello", when I picked it up & addressed a shot on my Pool Table. It is really a Magic Wand & it did elevate my confidence, immediately.

I play golf on a 10 foot Kling Snooker Table, with Pool Balls, every weekend, with some great players. Half-assed play won't get you to the "pay window", with those boys. When you draw down on a 8 foot draw shot, you have to know that your stroke & your cue will be there for you.

By the way, I call our little group, "You Miss, You Lose" club.
 
I'll approach it a different way. Absolutely, a new cue will instantly improve your game for two very specific reasons:

Better tip and smoother shaft than what you're currently playing with.

Freddie
 
Yes, many times. The feeling usually goes away by the second week. My Mezz, however, did instantly increase my playing level and this has lasted for 6 months. I think I've got a keeper, here. The cue perfectly fits my stroke and alerts me when I hit shots poorly, because there is a lot of feedback from the stiff shaft.

Like a lot of things, everyone has different tastes, and most good pool players can play with anything. However, there is definitely something to be said about feedback, taper, balance, and dimensions when considering your personal tastes. When I first picked up my Schuler with Pro Shaft, everything felt right: taper, balance and butt diameter.

Freddie
 
I forget what it's called but it's the same effect new clothes (say a suit) has on a persons general character, posture, stride all that stuff change. Unless you're a hoodlum, then you're just a hoodlum in a suit but even they change just a tad bit.
 
Absolutely

Like a lot of things, everyone has different tastes, and most good pool players can play with anything. However, there is definitely something to be said about feedback, taper, balance, and dimensions when considering your personal tastes. When I first picked up my Schuler with Pro Shaft, everything felt right: taper, balance and butt diameter.

Freddie

Exactly,
A friend of mine was selling some cues years ago. I went through the lot and found one a Southeast that when I wrapped my hand around it, it just felt right. My favorite cue. You mentioned feedback Ive a story.

A wealthy guy I know had a SouthWest I had never played with one, so I asked him if I could hit some balls with it and he obliged. I thought this cue is supposed to hit sweet and when I played with it, it just wasnt that soft hit I thought I was going to get but it definitely telegraphed the feel straight to the elbow and it wasnt unwelcome either and I kinda liked it.

So my cue had capped ferrules on it and a friend had a cue lathe. At the time I was playing with a Schon I won in a raffle and he wanted to play with South East because he was going to build cues just like it and I let him. So he calls me and says I'd like to change one of the ferrules to a juma, non capped ferrule and I said ok just stay off the shaft itself if you can and he did. My friend is really good player and I watched him play some of the best pool of his life with that cue getting exact and precise position. The change in ferrule changed the vibration the cue telegraphed just a little but just enough to get you enough feedback that you got a feel for what you were doing by stroke speed. It hit a lot closer the South West than it had before which I was a little unsure about at first. After my friend built his cue I got it back and have played with it since. Great hitting cue. I think the change in ferrule made it perfect.
 
I forget what it's called but it's the same effect new clothes (say a suit) has on a persons general character, posture, stride all that stuff change. Unless you're a hoodlum, then you're just a hoodlum in a suit but even they change just a tad bit.
Dammit boy,that's a good answer !!!
 
It's called "New Cue Syndrome."

I think it is still under study by the American Psychiatric Association and may some day be listed in their "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders."

Lou Figueroa

Well it's not under study , confidence has been proven to give better results than lack of and it really makes zero difference what gives a player that , it only matters that a player has it , lack of it produces more negative results by far ,,


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Well it's not under study , confidence has been proven to give better results than lack of and it really makes zero difference what gives a player that , it only matters that a player has it , lack of it produces more negative results by far ,,


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(There seems to be a dearth of humor around here lately, lol.)

Of course it's not under study and of course new equipment can make a difference, often for unknown reasons.

Here, let me give you two "magic cue" stories.

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I was living in San Francisco, my home town, in the late 70’s, graduating from college by the thinnest of margins (having majored in pool), and killing time waiting for the USAF to finally put me on active duty. I’d been commission a 2nd Lieutenant, but there were so many guys in the pipeline they told me to get lost for a couple of years until the backlog cleared and I could come on active duty.

So, I was working the swing shift at Wells Fargo headquarters in downtown SF and playing a lot of pool when all of us at the pool hall started to notice the sporadic appearances of these funny looking pool cues everywhere. They all had a lot of plastic inlays and skinny shafts. BUT the thing that really got us all salivating were the countless reports of how much spin you could get on the ball with a Meucci. (Pool room scholars of the time would spend endless hours in Talmudic-like debates about the proper pronunciation. “It’s ‘May-oo-chee;’” “No, ‘Mew-chee;’” “”I think it’s ‘Moo-key.’” And so it went. Regardless, we all recognized that no matter what you called them, these pool cues really spun the rock in a way no other pool cue of the era could.

Then one day a pile of Meucci brochures appeared at the pool hall desk and we were all *really* hooked. They were 8x10 color brochures that folded open. The cover was a heroic George Washington crossing the Delaware, standing in a row boat with, incredibly, a Meucci in hand.

I took a couple of brochures home and didn’t see anything that I really liked. Most of the cues where either too plain or too gaudy for my traditional sense of pool cue aesthetics. So I pulled out one of my X-Acto knives and actually glued together a ring here, a butt there, and a wrap from that one, until I had what was, in my mind, the perfect Meucci. I called the number on the brochure and, incredibly, somewhere down in Olive Branch, Mississippi, Bob Meucci himself answered the phone. I told Bob what I wanted, asked for two shafts, and about $300 and a few weeks later, it was in my hands.

Right off the bat, I hated the shinny sealed wrap. The wrap itself was a traditional white-with-flecks, but coated with almost the same finish that was on the butt itself. Thinking that maybe, just maybe, it was some sort of “protective wax” I took a wet paper towel to it. Big mistake. The coating was indeed water soluble but my paper towel and hands immediately started turning purple. Why purple, I have no idea -- the wrap after all was white -- but the coating was purple and though it eventually came off, it was at the expense of raising the threads of the underlying wrap and a few stains that looked like I’d been playing while eating jam (don’t go there).

The Air Force finally granted me asylum and off I went to Great Falls, Montana. Like I said, this was all late 70’s. At about the same time I was to own a Gina, a McDermott (made by Jim McDermott), a Richard Black, and a $25 Viking which was to play a memorable role when I entered my first Montana State 8Ball Tournament.

Back in 1977 I was lucky enough to win a qualifier for the National 8ball Championship, held that year in Dayton, OH. At that tournament, every player was given a free Viking cue. As I recall, it was a merry widow style cue and had a clear plastic sleeve in the butt underneath which said something like "National 8ball Tournament" in gold on black. I came home and threw it in my closet.

 A few months later I'm playing in the Montana State 8Ball Tournament. This is a very big deal up North because basically every bar up there has two million teams playing 8ball all winter and so there are several hundred players playing in a hotel in downtown Great Falls. My tip had come off my playing cue a few days before and I was concerned the re-glue job might not take, so, just as a back up, I pull the freebie cue out of the closet. 

Right off the bat, my first match, I could tell I wasn't playing well. (Yes, the tip was glued on just fine.) After a few shots, out of pure desperation, I pull out the freebie cue.

 Suddenly, everything was right with the world. I couldn't believe the difference. Everything looked right when I got down on the shot. Everything worked right when I pulled the trigger. A little while later, I switch back to my regular cue, a very nice, expensive job, to see how it felt by comparison and immediately, after just a couple of shots, I can tell that it's not right. So I go back to the $25 special. To make a long story short, I end up in the finals, go hill-hill, play a safe on Jack Larson’s last ball and lose on what may have been one of the greatest kick shots anyone has ever played on me. If not for that cue, I probably would have gone two and out.

So back to the Meucci: After my failed experiment with the wrap I played intermittently with the Meucci until on one visit to San Francisco, to see family, I take it to Whitehead and Zimmerman, the main pool table and cue distributor in the city. It was a great old musty place down on Howard Street in the downtown area. I think it was Earl Whitehead hisself that I showed the Meucci to and asked if he could re-wrap it with black Irish linen. He said, “I don’t have any black Irish linen in stock but I can do it in black nylon.” So I say, “OK” and a couple of days later it was ready and Meucci, wife and I drive back to Montana.

At the time I was, pretty much like today, an aspiring player. As a 9ball player I was capable, with perfect alignment of the stars, of running a couple of racks. And so I entered a 9ball tournament at The Corner Pocket in Missoula, one weekend in 1981 -- the last year of my four year tour at the Northern Tier. And, for whatever reason, I decided that my newly nylon re-wrapped Meucci would be my weapon of choice.

It was a pretty big field, with guys like Mike Chewakin and Panama Ritchie leading the pack. I found out later that two of the guys from Great Falls, Parks and Tim Nelson -- part owner of TJ’s, my home room in Great Falls -- bought me, not too surprisingly, on the cheap in the Calcutta, all the big established names driving the total side purse up into several thousands of dollars.

And we began to play.

You know, we all talk about the Indian or the arrow thing, but I can honestly tell you that sometimes, without question and with zero doubt: it is the arrow.

With the newly re-wrapped Meucci I am running out from everywhere. My safety play is stellar. I am thinning balls by the thinnest of margins, sending whitey to the end rail and gluing it to the other, consistently leaving my opponents 9’ away. One after another they drop by significant margins. Mike “Chewy” Chewakin is so incensed at the beating he is taking at my hands that he makes a scene and Parks and Tim have to pull me away from the table, urging me, “Don’t let him get under your skin.” (As I continued to go deeper into the tournament, Parks and Tim begin to pre-celebrate and tap into their anticipated Calcutta score and begin to get increasingly drunk, hooting and hollering as they repeatedly calculate the exponential return on their $20 Calcutta investment). Next, I demolish Panama Ritchie in the semi-finals. It was so ridiculous that at one point Ritchie turns to the crowd and disgustedly says, “I’ve beaten champions all over the country and here I am losing to this kid.”

So let me just say this, because I don’t think I’ve adequately conveyed at what level I’m playing at that day in early 1981 with the nylon re-wrapped Meucci: I am not only playing run out pool, I am in mortal dead punch. I am walking up to the table and casually drawing the ball back to the rail with reverse spin and popping back out two rails for perfect position; I am over spinning the cue ball off the end rail bending it to go cross table to slip under an object ball and come out perfect on my next target; I am playing caroms and tickies to make 9balls sitting near pockets disappear. There is not a cross-side bank that I am not drilling. It is completely and totally ridiculous and I lose in the finals to a fantastic black player whose name escapes me, and he wins, but just barely. Parks and Tim can barely stand. They are drunk as skunks and are hooting and hollering and laughing their asses off at the thousands they’ve won with their $20 dark horse bet.

After the tournament, a guy who was a local cue maker comes up to ask me about the Meucci. We talk and I tell him about the wrap and how Whitehead and Zimmerman only had black nylon in stock and he says, “Well, I can re-wrap it for you with black Irish linen if you want.” And I say, “Sure” and give him the cue. A week later it is my hands and, as advertised, is beautifully wrapped in black Irish linen.

And I never play 9ball again as well as I did that weekend with the Meucci wrapped with nylon. Ever.

Nowadays, the Meucci sits at the bottom of my closet in its brown Fellini case. I haven’t played with it in years. But every once in a while, like now, I think about it and consider having it re-wrapped in black nylon.
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Lou Figueroa
 
It does give me confidence. I have a had a new shaft made for me by the local cuemaker and I have had a 1st place and a 2nd place in the following 2 tournaments I played with it. It probably didn't improve my game but I probably enjoyed playing with it more hence giving me more confidence.
 
Have you ever felt like a new cue instantly improved the level of your game?

Have you ever had Colt 45 Malt Liquor. But honestly the new REVO has not instantly improved my game. But I just got a good deal on car insurance.
 
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Every one of them, then I went back to daydreaming or worrying about some problem I was having in life while I was playing and started playing my old speed.
Its a phenomenon most of us has had, you really like the cue , so you bear down and all you are thinking about is playing well.
Then life hits most people in the head, and it goes away.
I just went back and read a couple of other posts, this is just a long winded version of Lou's new cue syndrome.
 
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here's a funny scenario. when we have a custom cue made, we usually want it to have the same taper, weight, balance, ferrule material, tip, etc that our previous ones have. then after playing with this new cue for a couple of days/weeks, we decide that it is indeed a "player". of course - it is no different from our other cues. :grin:
 
I've felt that way, but then reality kicks in and I've honestly made no change other than to attempt shots I shouldn't be taking.

No cue has ever made me better. Practice does (and quickly).
 
This may sound like a really silly question, but have any of you ever tried a new cue out, and then instantly felt more confidence then you have ever felt with any other cue that you have ever tried in the past?

This would be a cue that just felt perfect for you (perfect feel, perfect balance, perfect hit, and just all around perfect for you, as if the cue was made for you, to be perfect just for you in every way).

You may be thinking that such a cue does not exist, and that this type of dream hitting cue could never be found (if you have never picked up a new cue, and instantly felt like your game greatly improved, and you have all of this confidence that you never had before, with any other cue that you ever used in the past).

Anyways, I understand that it would be pure luck (in my opinion) for this type of dream hitting cue to ever be found (no matter how much money you have to spend on a cue, and no matter who you order a cue from).

If you have found that perfect dream hitting cue, then it would be best for you to never let it go (no matter what), because you may not ever find that perfect cue (seemingly perfect in every way) again.

I am just curious to read replies from those of you that were able to find that perfect cue (that gave you all the confidence in the world with), and not that it matters, but any details about the cue would be cool to know (and I completely understand that just because that cue is/was perfect for you, does not mean that it would be perfect for anyone else).

Thanks for any replies about maybe a cue that you have, or had (and really regret letting go) that made you feel more confident then any other cue that you ever used before.
Alot of times that new cue feels great an just pumps you up to play.
 
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