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8up

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Monday in my APA league I was playing 9 ball and my opponent was down on the shot shooting the 9 when he raises up and says ball in hand I fouled. He said I bumped the cue ball with my tip. Three of us were watching and we all looked at him funny. We did not see the foul. The ball did not actually move he had just touched it but knew he had fouled and called it on himself.

I told him to go ahead and shoot. (making the 9 in APA is just 2 points not the game ball) He sank the 9 and told me I will remember you let me take that shot. I went on to win and felt good doing it.

Not bad for a couple APA hacks:grin:
 
This reminds me of something funny that happened a couple weeks ago while playing 8ball APA.

I was breaking and hit the rack pretty good. The 13 ball was kicked by another ball and came towards the rail I was breaking from like a rocket. It barely skimmed the tip of my cue. It didn't seem to alter the path because nobody noticed. Anyways, it continued to the back rail and banked off down into the corner pocket.

I leaned over to my opponent and said that a ball hit my stick and it was the 13 ball. We were both dumb founded on how to handle it. We got the league rep and he told me to rerack and give her the break. I was ok with that. Just a funny thing since the league rep didn't even know how to handle that.

I felt good about calling myself on that foul.
 
TheNewSharkster said:
This reminds me of something funny that happened a couple weeks ago while playing 8ball APA.

I was breaking and hit the rack pretty good. The 13 ball was kicked by another ball and came towards the rail I was breaking from like a rocket. It barely skimmed the tip of my cue. It didn't seem to alter the path because nobody noticed. Anyways, it continued to the back rail and banked off down into the corner pocket.

I leaned over to my opponent and said that a ball hit my stick and it was the 13 ball. We were both dumb founded on how to handle it. We got the league rep and he told me to rerack and give her the break. I was ok with that. Just a funny thing since the league rep didn't even know how to handle that.

I felt good about calling myself on that foul.
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This same thing happened to me in TAP, and it was a ball in hand foul.
 
Love the honesty! I always call those fouls on myself. It feels like cheating if I don't & I don't like that.
 
TheNewSharkster said:
This reminds me of something funny that happened a couple weeks ago while playing 8ball APA.

I was breaking and hit the rack pretty good. The 13 ball was kicked by another ball and came towards the rail I was breaking from like a rocket. It barely skimmed the tip of my cue. It didn't seem to alter the path because nobody noticed. Anyways, it continued to the back rail and banked off down into the corner pocket.

I leaned over to my opponent and said that a ball hit my stick and it was the 13 ball. We were both dumb founded on how to handle it. We got the league rep and he told me to rerack and give her the break. I was ok with that. Just a funny thing since the league rep didn't even know how to handle that.

I felt good about calling myself on that foul.
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Should have spotted the 13 and the incoming player has an open table where the CB lays. If the CB had made contact with the cue instead of the 13, or the 13 hit the CB after it contacted your cue, the incoming player would have an open table and BIH.


I always call my own fouls. I don't like cheats.


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8up said:
Monday in my APA league I was playing 9 ball and my opponent was down on the shot shooting the 9 when he raises up and says ball in hand I fouled. He said I bumped the cue ball with my tip. Three of us were watching and we all looked at him funny. We did not see the foul. The ball did not actually move he had just touched it but knew he had fouled and called it on himself.

I told him to go ahead and shoot. (making the 9 in APA is just 2 points not the game ball) He sank the 9 and told me I will remember you let me take that shot. I went on to win and felt good doing it.

Not bad for a couple APA hacks:grin:
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green sent your way. you just don't see enough civility in our game. it was cool for him to call the foul and cooler for you to let him shoot any way. good for you man.
 
fair play mate, good sportsmanship all round.

I find it really perplexingthat some people dont call fouls on themselves as similar to golf pool is a self policing sport, unless you do something obvious like scratching/hitting your ball out of bounds. It ruins the whole honour thing for me if people make noticeable fouls albeitaccidentally moving balls and dont 'notice'.

it should be the norm for people to behave as you and your opponent did.
 
ajsud said:
I find it really perplexingthat some people dont call fouls on themselves as similar to golf pool is a self policing sport, unless you do something obvious like scratching/hitting your ball out of bounds. It ruins the whole honour thing for me if people make noticeable fouls albeitaccidentally moving balls and dont 'notice'.
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I really get annoyed at the players that foul the cue ball with the tip of their cue (sometimes moving the ball an inch or two) and staying down on their shot but looking up to see if anyone saw it or if anyone was going to call a foul on it. I mean come on, you just FOULED. Don't try and hide the fact that you just did so. Have the decency to call it on yourself. Maybe, just MAYBE, a good person like 8up will let you shoot it anyways.

I have always called fouls on myself. That said there have been some shots where my opponent called a foul on me and I didn't think so, but after a brief moment of replaying the direction/speed at which the balls in question moved, I realized that a foul was commited and handed the cue ball to my opponent. It just took a few seconds to fully understand what actually happened on the table.

Nice gesture 8up, but believe it or not, this subject comes up from time to time on here and there are a lot of posters that would totally disagree with what you did. I'm not one of them. At least not in your case where the ball was hardly moved and no one saw it anyways.

Maniac
 
Great stuff. Nice to see there are people playing the right way out there.

I had a similar experience a month or two ago, can't remember if it was league or the weekly tourney. I was hitting a soft shot, and double hit the cueball. Stood right up, grabbed the cb and handed it to my opponent, who looked at me puzzled. I told her I double hit the cb, she was amazed since she didn't see it.

It's always a good feeling to do the right thing.
 
i spare in a master 8 ball league sometimes and it is pretty much up to yourself to call the foul on yourself and if you dont its considered very bad sportsmanship in that league.
 
In my league all fouls are ball in hand, and I have called fouls on myself. I would rather lose with integrity than win with dishonesty.

Just this past week I played a guy who was bridging over a ball and touched it with his cue - and then looked around inconspicuously to see if anyone saw. Of course I did, and of course I called the foul.
 
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Sounds like a gentlemen's night out of playing pool. If you foul, and you don't call it I don't see how you're going to get better? Being careless won't help your game. For me, my opponent gives me BIH on the 9-ball and they're visibly upset, I sometime point out that I like to win by skill, so its nothing personal, just the rules.
 
On Monday I was down to the 8, which was deep in a corner pocket against one side with the opponent's ball touching it. After an opponent miss I was left with a tough decision - maybe a 1/2 of the ball showing from where I was and it was a 3/4 table length shot. Normally I'd just knock one of the opponent's ball in and give him bih - the layout with the 8 and his ball touching and so deep almost guaranteed me an eventual win, but he still had 4 or 5 on the table we needed the points so I went for it. After dropping the 8 a discussion ensued. The opponent not being sure, a person on their team who was acting as ref on the shot saying it was a good hit, and me saying I think it was a foul. Yes, it was that close. In the end I lost the argument as the shot was right near the opponent's table and a couple others on their team also said it was a good hit. After a couple "are you sure, I think it was a foul" comments by me I gave up and took the win.

A couple months ago a teammate was looking at his shot, took a couple steps back, caught the butt of his cue stick on a post which caused him to bump the CB with his shaft. CB rolled a couple inches and the opponent jumped up calling foul. Technically correct, but in a friendly league that's a pretty chicken-sh!t call. Later in the match I was playing a different opponent who made a similar foul without the benefit of bumping the pole. I let them move the CB back and take their shot while making the comment "some of us are friendlier than others" loud enough for all of their team to hear. IMHO, in a friendly league if you bump the CB in a non-shooting action, I always let them move it back and take the shot.
 
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