Heat vs. Cues

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So we all know the stories about cues being left in the trunk and coming out like pretzels with inlays popping.....etc.... we also know stories of people who have had their Szamboti for 30 years with no special care and it's dead straight with no issues.

My question for cue makers is with modern adhesives what really is the temperature threshold that affects the glue in the cues?

Do you know? Is there data to back it up?

Links?

(and yes while asking this question I am also googling to see what I can find).

Thanks in advance to any cue makers willing to take on this question.
 
years ago I decided to always have a cue with me since I so often had a chance to play some, but didn't have a cue I liked with me. so I decided to just designate one as my "truck cue"

My Adam A/H-35 and it's two shafts have been in my truck for five or more years with no noticeable change. it still rolls nice and flat. It gets in the upper 90's to low 100's in the summer and down to the low teens regularly during the winter and as low as -20 to -40 on rare occasions.

I thought it would curl up like a pretzel when I started letting it be an out door pet, but it hasn't really affected it.

I have always been amazed that it didn't kill it. Guess I picked the right one for the torture test.
 
jayman said:
years ago I decided to always have a cue with me since I so often had a chance to play some, but didn't have a cue I liked with me. so I decided to just designate one as my "truck cue"

My Adam A/H-35 and it's two shafts have been in my truck for five or more years with no noticeable change. it still rolls nice and flat. It gets in the upper 90's to low 100's in the summer and down to the low teens regularly during the winter and as low as -20 to -40 on rare occasions.

I thought it would curl up like a pretzel when I started letting it be an out door pet, but it hasn't really affected it.

I have always been amazed that it didn't kill it. Guess I picked the right one for the torture test.
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Jayman...... I did the same exact thing. I wanted to always have a cue with me, so I bought a cheap Dale Perry off of ebay about 5 years ago. I live in Georgia where it easily gets 130-140 in the trunk of a car in the summer and sometimes down below freezing in the winter (not much below and not very often but still gets COLD, mostly teens). That cue sat in my trunk for well over 5 years and to this day it is still as perfect as new. No inlays popped, no rings popped, no warpage. I'm highly impressed with it considering the source it came from.
 
My Jensen also lives in the car. It's dead straight with no damage other than what I have inflicted on it.

What I am interested in though is whether any cue makers want to chime on on heat vs. cues.

I ask because it's come up that another case maker is adding a layer of fireproof heat reistant film (claimed) to his cases and I think that this is solving a problem that doesn't exist. You all know how much I like protection so I don't think that this is neccessarily a bad thing to have another layer of protection but is it somewhat of overkill for the normal storage that cues are subjected to?

I mean I know warehouses that are NOT climate controlled and there are thousands of cues in them kept only in the plastic bags and boxes which are not affected. Cues are rolled and inspected before shipping so we know the exact amount of rejects and reasons and it's less than 1%.
 
JB Cases said:
My Jensen also lives in the car. It's dead straight with no damage other than what I have inflicted on it.

What I am interested in though is whether any cue makers want to chime on on heat vs. cues.

I ask because it's come up that another case maker is adding a layer of fireproof heat reistant film (claimed) to his cases and I think that this is solving a problem that doesn't exist. You all know how much I like protection so I don't think that this is neccessarily a bad thing to have another layer of protection but is it somewhat of overkill for the normal storage that cues are subjected to?

I mean I know warehouses that are NOT climate controlled and there are thousands of cues in them kept only in the plastic bags and boxes which are not affected. Cues are rolled and inspected before shipping so we know the exact amount of rejects and reasons and it's less than 1%.
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When I worked at Ferrari I saw car after car come in with dashes and door lines that shrunk and needed to be replaced.

Different materials shrink and expand according to their physical property when conditions change, it is unavoidable. If new glues help keep that to a minimum...well great.

I'll never tell anyone it's ok to leave a cue in a car. It's not that hard to take it inside. I wouldn't worry so much about a cue that is cheap and I don't care about. However, why would anyone want to take a chance?

As far as heat resistant film goes.....sounds like a bogus marketing ploy.
 
As best I can tell from using epoxies,etc,anything over 150-160F can soften some glues,200 for sure will get you some movement,and anything over that you can start unscrewing parts. Tommy D.
 
As far as the adding a layer of fireproof, heat resistant film, it isn't going to change anything except the advertising. If your house burns down with the cue in the case, that cue is not going to roll straight and coffee in a thermos just takes longer to get to the ambient temperature.
 
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