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anyone know what this is?
carved rings on handle
brass joint, 5/16x18 brass pin
appreciate any thoughts
brent



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I have seen that joint before!! I know someone who has a cue with that joint. I apologize i forget the name but as soon as i get the name I will forward it to you.
 
The Piper said:
I have seen that joint before!! I know someone who has a cue with that joint. I apologize i forget the name but as soon as i get the name I will forward it to you.
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It's an old Brunswick (my best guess) - early/mid 1960's?
 
The Piper said:
I have seen that joint before!! I know someone who has a cue with that joint. I apologize i forget the name but as soon as i get the name I will forward it to you.
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didn't the two pc. hoppe's have the same joint? pin is only out past brass collar about 3/8" to tip of point, if that helps identify.
 
The cue I saw wasn't a manufacturer cue, it was a custom. The joint was specific to the maker, like the glass epoxy to Cognoscenti cues. the cue i saw made was custom, and i remember verifying the name and the joint online. it used a recessed pin style with a raised color, and on the shaft end of the cue, it had the same recessed feature.
 
stix4sale said:
didn't the two pc. hoppe's have the same joint? pin is only out past brass collar about 3/8" to tip of point, if that helps identify.
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You are right - I had one with a 1960-70 label that had the same joint as yours. It's a joint Brunswick used, but I don't know if anyone else (other than Rambow) did.

Here's a circa-1970 one with similar joint, but the longer pin: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7222458087
 
runscott said:
You are right - I had one with a 1960-70 label that had the same joint as yours. It's a joint Brunswick used, but I don't know if anyone else (other than Rambow) did.

Here's a circa-1970 one with similar joint, but the longer pin: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7222458087
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don't tease me. i can't get lucky enough to find a rambow!!! haha :D
actually this cue belongs to the owner of snookers billiards in cincy
going to refinish per his request
cut wrap groove in place of carved rings
 
anyone know what this is? carved rings on handle,brass joint, 5/16x18 brass pin, appreciate any thoughts. brent
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It almost looks like it could be an early 70’s Sampaio cue but most if not all of the Sampaio’s that I’ve seen had either “Sampaio” or “Portugal” or “Made in Portugal” stamped (embossed) in the butt or shaft and sometimes both the butt and shaft.

Sampaio cues were made in Lisbon, Portugal and J-S Sales was the exclusive distributor here in the US.
 
stix4sale said:
don't tease me. i can't get lucky enough to find a rambow!!! haha :D
actually this cue belongs to the owner of snookers billiards in cincy
going to refinish per his request
cut wrap groove in place of carved rings
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I think there is a possibilty that it could be a Sampaio cue.., and if indeed it is, it has value in it's original condition.., If I owned this cue, I'd wait and find out before I would refinish or cut in a wrap.

Check out http://www.welovepool.com/sapocu.html for some examples (and prices) of the Sampaio cues offered.
 
stix4sale said:
don't tease me. i can't get lucky enough to find a rambow!!! haha :D
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Sure you could!

Here are some joints similar to yours - the one on the left has about the same length pin, '50s Hoppe. Next one is slightly shorter and shaft sleeve is re-done. Shaft on far right is from a '60s Hoppe.

BTW - cue on far left is a near-perfect Hoppe with best craftsmanship I've seen, almost perfect points, you can barely feel the collars. And it has an "R" stamped into the butt on the opposite side of the label. Kind of weird.
 

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I know I've seen that joint on Rich cues and that might explain the R stamped on the Hoppe.
Paul
 
thepavlos said:
I know I've seen that joint on Rich cues and that might explain the R stamped on the Hoppe.
Paul
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Rich cues made my 1950's Willie Hoppe?!? Damn.
 
runscott said:
Sure you could!

Here are some joints similar to yours - the one on the left has about the same length pin, '50s Hoppe. Next one is slightly shorter and shaft sleeve is re-done. Shaft on far right is from a '60s Hoppe.

BTW - cue on far left is a near-perfect Hoppe with best craftsmanship I've seen, almost perfect points, you can barely feel the collars. And it has an "R" stamped into the butt on the opposite side of the label. Kind of weird.
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a brunswick collector told me that it was an option back then to have your initails stamped on the hoppe's. i've had three personally that did have initials on the butt. if i remember right, i thought he said it was an extra $1 or $2.
 
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