Help identify pool cue? Possibly a Helmstetter?

[vintagecollectibles831]

There is this cue that I am interested in. These are not my pics.

Curious if anyone here knows this cue?

I understand it is a long shot question.

I believe it is probably an Adam Helmstetter, but there are no identifying marks. Signature may have been erased during a refinish though.

I was thinking this might be a cue from the 86 series, for example. Has the same type of 5/16x18 Piloted SS joint, I believe.

Thanks for any thoughts.

 

[dpaulnot]

Don't know who made it, but I love the design..

 

[vintagecollectibles831]

Don't know who made it, but I love the design..

Thanks for your reply. All I know is the Wrap seems to be a style that a lot of Japanese players love. I really do not like the look of the wrap though.

 

[measureman]

I see a cue thats a step above an Adam/Helmstetter cue.
Really nice work.

 

[Chopdoc]

It's an Adam. 98.6739% sure. Wrap likely added.

 

[Chopdoc]

It's an Adam. 98.6739% sure. Wrap likely added.

The top Taiwan cues hit this quality level too, though many seem to deny it. But I do think this is an Adam design. Where it was made? I dunno. Adam used parts from one factory to finish cues in another. Big multinational company.

Cues like this are worth whatever they are based on what the buyer sees. No name. Lucky to find it in a catalog.

You can get some of the exact Helmstetter designs occasionally without the name on them. No, not refinished.

 

[Mensabum]

It's an Adam. 98.6739% sure. Wrap likely added.

Definitely an added wrap.