HELP identify the joint pin PLEASE!!

weiru

weiru

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help me identify this joint pls. and i wish to buy a leather wrap for this cue, pls suggest what wrap will be nice on it. im think of a white gator. im also looking for either a z2 or ob2 for this cue. thanks!!!

in case the picture is not clear, i took a few.
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here is the cue
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the full cue
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Looks like a 5/16 x 14 piloted, SS joint.
What ever wrap you like would be fine.

To clarify; the pin is 5/16 inch in diameter with 14 threads per inch along it's length. The joint body is stainless steel. The wrap you chose would be the rare Albino Gatorus Americanus, a particularly vicious member of that genus, whose fondness for devouring dogs and small children have been well documented.
 
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If you have any doubt on the pin size and thread pitch, and don't have a thread gauge, go to Home Depot (or any hardware store). Usually, there will be someone there that can help you measure or, just try and find the right size nut to screw on it, then you'll know for sure. Obviously, you don't want to force the nut on as some threads will be close, but not exact.


Eric
 
DoubleD said:
While I agree that it looks like a 5/16x14, do yourself a favor and take the cue to a machinist (or cue maker) in your area and have him give you the thread pitch (i.e. 14threads per inch) and the diameter (I'd give odds on 5/16"). He could also probably measure the pilot so you could verify that.

Should take him under 4.6minutes. Doing this will eliminate all doubt as to what the joint is.

As far as the wrap, white shows all dirt faster than anything....
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I agree. I took a cue to a local NAPA auto parts store once and they told me what it was. Make sure before you buy a shaft for it.
 
if i mention this is a Doug Bourque's cue, will it help in identifying the joint?
 
weiru said:
if i mention this is a Doug Bourque's cue, will it help in identifying the joint?
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Blue book shows he uses 5/16 X 14 and it looks like one to me also. If you know anybody with a Schon, just see if that shafts fits your joint - then you know what to order.

I personally order "partial" shafts and have them fitted to my cue - that way you can get it perfectly matched to your handle.

Chris
 
TATE said:
Blue book shows he uses 5/16 X 14 and it looks like one to me also. If you know anybody with a Schon, just see if that shafts fits your joint - then you know what to order.

I personally order "partial" shafts and have them fitted to my cue - that way you can get it perfectly matched to your handle.

Chris
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so i could use schon's shaft? i saw one schon'sob2 on sale. im interested to buy, but nnot sure if it fits.
 
weiru said:
so i could use schon's shaft? i saw one schon'sob2 on sale. im interested to buy, but nnot sure if it fits.
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Careful with Schon shafts, they will not fit on all 5/16x14 pins and the collar size is usually wider than many of the other cue makers same type joint. I have recently traded for many different butts that have 5/16x14 piloted joints and only one of them would allow my Schon shaft to fit.

It's best to find someone w/a Schon shaft you can try before buying one.

Dave
 
Weiru, before you become any more confused than you already are, call or email Seybert's Billiard Supply and tell them you want to purchase a Predator shaft, item number 314-2 14TBC. Cost is $215.90 American. Shipping is free, although I'm not sure about worldwide.
This shaft will not match the white double ring joint you currently have though. To match the joint rings you must have a cue repair person do the work, which is easily done. Seybert's sells an unfinished Predator 314-2 for that reason.
 
DoubleD said:
First off, unless the joint is 5/16-18, there will be no nut at home depot or most hardware stores that will screw onto it.

Asking some minimum wage guy to screw something onto a specialized pin is asking him to eff it up.

Screwing a nut onto an unknown thread is about the worst way to figure out what the thread is. If this is the best idea you can come up with, I implore you to go to someone professional.

The people at the home depots and loewes that I have been to wouldn't know how to use a proper thread gauge.

Good hardware stores might have a knowledgeable person who could help.
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Hey, lighten up, Tool Time Tim.

If you re-read, I did suggest going there to find someone who might have a gauge to measure for him. Also, using a proper size nut is perfectly fine if you don't try to wrench it on.

Another thing to do would be to find a screw with the same pitch, see if it meshes with the screw you have and voila, instant thread gauge.

Of course, all this is unnecessary if you have every tool known to man, and know how to use every one of them :rolleyes:


Eric
 
what do u mean the close up pic threw him off? i thought close up pics will make identifying the joint easier?
 
DoubleD said:
The people at the home depots and loewes that I have been to wouldn't know how to use a proper thread gauge..
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My Home Depot I can happily report is different than yours.

But, you're right in whole. If the OP can't figure out the thread size on his own, then given the cue building industry, going to to a local hardware store has its own risks.

Fred
 
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