Help me decide the wrap!

[WildWing]

Help me decide the wrap!

Leave it as is, or do it in black?

I don't know how to do a poll, so just respond in the linked thread. I can leave the wrap as it is, or do it in black.

If you want to know what this is all about, go to the first post in that thread.

Here is the cue:

Post in thread 'Ebony and Maple, No Veneers'

Monday at 3:43 PM

Got another one!

I think it is a version of the McDermott E-F5, with the wrap that goes all the way to the points (the wrap usually stops short) and black joint collar and butt cap instead of gray (usually gray, sometimes black). In fact the butt cap and butt sleeve look like one black piece on this one.

So here is a thought: I think this would look better with a black wrap. What do you think?

For comparison, I did the black wrap on this McDermott EK-1.

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• Chopdoc

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Solid black. It's not traditional enough of a cue to do a white with green spec. Solid black.

 

[WildWing]

Dying it black was my thought. I have done it several times. I believe the Blue Mountain white with double black linen would look great.

I don't think there's any Blue Mountain around anymore, unless some have hoarded some. It burned down many years ago.

 

[AMF247]

Gotta love the Passenger 57 references. Someone out there is in my age group lol.

I actually like the current wrap for nostalgic effect but it seems you have a type after looking at the pics maybe.
I’d say leather and to be a little different I think black stacked leather would look killer.
If not maybe elephant ear black leather is a close second.

Beautiful collection of classy cues

 

[R2PQZ]

I don't think there's any Blue Mountain around anymore, unless some have hoarded some. It burned down many years ago.

I had bought every new color from 1983 on. First linen purchased was from Hurlbert for $16 a pound. I am under the impression another company produced linen after Blue Mountain.

 

[Chopdoc]

Solid black. It's not traditional enough of a cue to do a white with green spec. Solid black.

There have been a lot of cool suggestions but that's where I started on it. Black. It's not a traditional cue, and I got it to fit into the group I am building.

Still, I am considering different perspectives on the matter. This is really fun!

I love to see what people think on this matter.

Sure, I could have just bought one custom instead of the group. But to me, this is part of the artistry of collecting. A theme. Creating a group of cues that didn't exist together before.

 

[dquarasr]

Go bold. Red!!

Or go conservative, black w white specks.

Be sure to post follow up photo when you finish it.

 

[WildWing]

I had bought every new color from 1983 on. First linen purchased was from Hurlbert for $16 a pound. I am under the impression another company produced linen after Blue Mountain.

It all comes from China now. I've heard rumors of another linen maybe being produced in another country, but so far, no evidence.

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

Faux Cortland is timeless Jmho.

 

[Chopdoc]

It all comes from China now. I've heard rumors of another linen maybe being produced in another country, but so far, no evidence.

I was experimenting with hemp cord (not twine which is rough) as a cue wrap. I found some finely produced in the exact thickness of #9 Cortland. I want to get back to that experiment, it has been some years.

I have only found one cue maker that uses hemp wrap, and they are (or were) in Canada. It seemed to be more of a novelty.

Believe it or not, it presses and finishes really nice. So, black works great. Coming up with something with color specs is another matter. There is variegated, but since it's for arts and crafts the quality is really inconsistent. And I think variegated looks like crap on a cue.

 

[WildWing]

I was experimenting with hemp cord (not twine which is rough) as a cue wrap. I found some finely produced in the exact thickness of #9 Cortland. I want to get back to that experiment, it has been some years.

I have only found one cue maker that uses hemp wrap, and they are (or were) in Canada. It seemed to be more of a novelty.

Believe it or not, it presses and finishes really nice. So, black works great. Coming up with something with color specs is another matter. There is variegated, but since it's for arts and crafts the quality is really inconsistent. And I think variegated looks like crap on a cue.

Well, Irish Linen, so to speak, is nothing but fishing line, if we go back to Cortland, which we tend to do. Today's linen only goes on cues that I know of, as the fishing industry has long since gone to Dacron. In fact, if we go back to the Palmer 2 catalog, those cues that were advertised as Irish Linen, actually had Dacron wraps on them. I still have one, Model D, and nothing wrong with it. They found some that looked something like real linen.

If another wrap could be developed, I'd be all for that. Hell, the industry has largely replaced wood shafts with carbon fiber, and the butts as well. I'd like to see an alternative wrap that could look and feel a lot like the old Cortland 9. Easier said than done.

 

[Chopdoc]

Well, Irish Linen, so to speak, is nothing but fishing line, if we go back to Cortland, which we tend to do. Today's linen only goes on cues that I know of, as the fishing industry has long since gone to Dacron. In fact, if we go back to the Palmer 2 catalog, those cues that were advertised as Irish Linen, actually had Dacron wraps on them. I still have one, Model D, and nothing wrong with it. They found some that looked something like real linen.

If another wrap could be developed, I'd be all for that. Hell, the industry has largely replaced wood shafts with carbon fiber, and the butts as well. I'd like to see an alternative wrap that could look and feel a lot like the old Cortland 9. Easier said than done.

Even the old cases were adapted fishing rod cases.

Cue building borrowed materials from different arts, crafts, and trades.

I do wonder what's "next" for wraps. Personally, I favor natural materials, something that grows out of the ground or that you feed things that grow out of the ground to. Sure, oil comes out of the ground and we make many synthetic materials out of it, but there is no "soul" in the feel of such things.

 

[cueball2010]

Before you go wasting a perfectly good wrap... How about Tie Dye?

 

[Chopdoc]

Well, Irish Linen, so to speak, is nothing but fishing line, if we go back to Cortland, which we tend to do. Today's linen only goes on cues that I know of, as the fishing industry has long since gone to Dacron. In fact, if we go back to the Palmer 2 catalog, those cues that were advertised as Irish Linen, actually had Dacron wraps on them. I still have one, Model D, and nothing wrong with it. They found some that looked something like real linen.

If another wrap could be developed, I'd be all for that. Hell, the industry has largely replaced wood shafts with carbon fiber, and the butts as well. I'd like to see an alternative wrap that could look and feel a lot like the old Cortland 9. Easier said than done.

Maybe I should wrap a cue in the black hemp cord I found, press it, and finish it in my secret sauce, and send it to you to butcher in a review on AZB. LOL! That could be fun.

 

[Chopdoc]

Before you go wasting a perfectly good wrap... How about Tie Dye?

Now there is an idea. LOL!

 

[WildWing]

Maybe I should wrap a cue in the black hemp cord I found, press it, and finish it in my secret sauce, and send it to you to butcher in a review on AZB. LOL! That could be fun.

It could be fun. Actually I turned a McDermott D-17 into the typical one that looked like Cortland wrap. Takes patience. Bleach with water, very slowly, not drenched, but lightly go over it with the AC or heat going, so it would dry. Over and over. Then, depending on the wrap either burnish with a glass rod, or very fine sandpaper and wax paper. Different techniques for different wraps. I could turn your hemp cord into Cortland.

 

[Chopdoc]

It could be fun. Actually I turned a McDermott D-17 into the typical one that looked like Cortland wrap. Takes patience. Bleach with water, very slowly, not drenched, but lightly go over it with the AC or heat going, so it would dry. Over and over. Then, depending on the wrap either burnish with a glass rod, or very fine sandpaper and wax paper. Different techniques for different wraps. I could turn your hemp cord into Cortland.

Genuine Cortland is the best right off the spool, but certainly there is a great deal to say about how a wrap is finished. This is true of both linen and leather.

The McDermott E-K1 that I refinished the wrap on took a bit of work and some different products, but the end result is really great. It ends up being a cross between a great linen and fine leather feel. I dig it. Looks cool and feels great. It was already trashed, so I wasn't worried about screwing it up.

The wrap on this McDermott I just got is perfect and really well finished. So I am proposing to potentially screw up a really nicely done wrap. LOL!

It's not a Bushka, so am I really worried about screwing it up? No, not really.

Heck, if I screw it up I might even try my black hemp wrap on it before considering sending it to have a real cue maker do it "right".

I don't have a lathe, but I am patient and can "wind string". LOL!

 

[j2pac]

Now there is an idea. LOL!

Another intriguing idea...
Tiger Stacked Leather Wraps - Seybert's Billiards Supply https://share.google/GPAgJzfdtKnCmt3aV

 

[Chopdoc]

Another intriguing idea...
Tiger Stacked Leather Wraps - Seybert's Billiards Supply https://share.google/GPAgJzfdtKnCmt3aV

Yup. Could do that.

 

[j2pac]

Now there is an idea. LOL!

I've also seen some very nice Kangaroo hide wraps out there.

 

[manwon]

I am a white with green specks guy.

While I like many different colors, white with green specks is my favorite!