help me understand :)
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Which cue hits best is totally subjective. Plus likes and dislikes are moving targets as time goes by. There are great players who will shoot your lights out with a broomstick and others who won't take a shot without their own stick. Moscini once said that nobody could shoot good straight pool with less than a 21 ounce cue. A year later he was playing his usual amazing way with a 19 ounce cue.
I don't have any accurate numbers but I suspect that there are at least 30 excellent cuemakers out there and twice that many very good ones. The odds are very good that you'd get a quality stick from any of them. In the final analysis no one can tell you exactly what cue or which brand you'll like the best. I have three favorite cues and one is from a cuemaker I ordinarily wouldn't have considered until I picked up that particular cue and played with it for an hour.
Go out and try a few cues at random. Find one you thnk you like and buy it. It probably won't be the Holy Grail. It also won't be the last cue you buy. But it'll be the same every time you pick it up.
Good Luck
I don't have any accurate numbers but I suspect that there are at least 30 excellent cuemakers out there and twice that many very good ones. The odds are very good that you'd get a quality stick from any of them. In the final analysis no one can tell you exactly what cue or which brand you'll like the best. I have three favorite cues and one is from a cuemaker I ordinarily wouldn't have considered until I picked up that particular cue and played with it for an hour.
Go out and try a few cues at random. Find one you thnk you like and buy it. It probably won't be the Holy Grail. It also won't be the last cue you buy. But it'll be the same every time you pick it up.
Good Luck
mark tadd said:
Florida. searing@aol.com
Only one problem, the current wait for a new cue is 6 years.
Try to pick one up on the used market.
I also highly recommend the playability of Ariel Carmeli Custom cues. They are very well balanced and just seem to hit right. Take a look in the Wanted/For Sale section in the forums and you will find several nice ones (I have a couple for sale too).
mark tadd said:thanks cory my only problem is i will never buy a cue unless i hit with it first so that could be an obstacle
You are on a totally different level than the normal person looking for a pool cue.......You have played long enough that you already know exactly what you want in a cue, you just can't seem to find one that matched what you want....You need to do what all the Golf Pros do...list the details of the set up you like, taper, weight, balance, stiffness, diameter etc.....then have about 25 of them made the exact same way......then hit with each one of them to find the "hot" one. that is the cue you want....Good luck finding a cue maker to do that at no out of pocket expense....Well you might be one of the few in the world that could pull that off...
The only other option is to try different cues until you find that "hot" hitting cue....If that owner is not willing to sell.....when he/she looks the other way...run out the back door...
Glad to see your name back in the pool world. IMHO I would find another cue like whatever you used when you won the all-around in LA in '93. If I'm correct you won the 9-ball, won the banks, and came in 2nd in
1P. At any rate, hope you find the cue that feels best to you. Best of luck in the IPT.
1P. At any rate, hope you find the cue that feels best to you. Best of luck in the IPT.
If I could only own one cue and wanted the best hit I'd personally buy a scruggs. Now I'm not a good player somewhere in that c perhaps low b range. Probably never be better than that, but scruggs just plain hit great imho. And they are easy to find and get to hit with.
Rather than get the opinion of the masses I think you should look at which cue the top pros are using, or at least the pros who game closely resembles your style, and start from there.
These are the people who are making a living playing the game so I doubt that they would use inferior equipment or equipment that would hurt thier game - sponsored or not.
These are the people who are making a living playing the game so I doubt that they would use inferior equipment or equipment that would hurt thier game - sponsored or not.
BrooklynJay said:
I would get a Gulyassy since you mentioned Southwest. A Gulyassy hits just as good & you don't have to wait 11 years to get one.
I hear that Dennis Searing makes one hell of a cue. He was just out in Vegas, super nice guy. I listened in from about 15 feet when he had a 30 minute conversation with Ga Young Kim about his cue, balance point, etc.
I hear that Dennis Searing makes one hell of a cue. He was just out in Vegas, super nice guy. I listened in from about 15 feet when he had a 30 minute conversation with Ga Young Kim about his cue, balance point, etc.
daytonajoe
Deceased
Corey @ Tiger
This would be a perfect opportunity to get the new Tiger cue in the hands of a true player!!! Why not get mark one to try and if he is happy sign him to a contract to play with your cue and shaft!!!
If not there should be a cuemaker that is on this board that would step up to help Mark and get their product in front of the masses!!
Joe
This would be a perfect opportunity to get the new Tiger cue in the hands of a true player!!! Why not get mark one to try and if he is happy sign him to a contract to play with your cue and shaft!!!
If not there should be a cuemaker that is on this board that would step up to help Mark and get their product in front of the masses!!
Joe
BrooklynJay said:
i agree great advice thats what ive been getting at and it would seem that there some pros on here sooner or later but others have given some great advive to so i will gather all info and hope things come out well
and again for the record im not lookink for perfection i just dont want to be spotting my opponents because of my equiptment.
i mean why eat soup with a fork when you can use a spoon . so if thats true im putting my fork away
Mark,
I will be send the cue out tomorrow. Any preferance on weight, or ballpark area that the weight of the cue should fall within.
Chris
I will be send the cue out tomorrow. Any preferance on weight, or ballpark area that the weight of the cue should fall within.
Chris
Why don't you just get a predator shaft and find a decent, plain butt to put it on? I think half the touring pros use predator shafts these days and there must be a reason why. You could put a predator on your lucasi and only spend about 200 bucks. Hell, call them up, they might just give you a predator cue.
Jason Miller played with a predator shaft on a plain butt (Dufferin, I believe) and he won the banks at DCC (for the second time) as well as his IPT card with it this year.
Next time there is a pool convention with a lot of top cuemakers or cuesellers, look around and try as many cues as you can. I think Allen Hopkins' Expo would be one example of a good place to try a number of nice cues.
Jason Miller played with a predator shaft on a plain butt (Dufferin, I believe) and he won the banks at DCC (for the second time) as well as his IPT card with it this year.
Next time there is a pool convention with a lot of top cuemakers or cuesellers, look around and try as many cues as you can. I think Allen Hopkins' Expo would be one example of a good place to try a number of nice cues.
pharaoh68
Banned
Mark, if you want to find the best possible bang for your buck, ie, 'reasonably' inexpensive, quality of craftsmanship, quality of materials, and excellence in play, I would recommend these three over the rest:
1) Southwest- Points or no points they have that reputation for a reason. They know what they are doing.
2) Richard Harris- His players cues / plain janes are top notch. The woods are of excellent caliber and the construction makes them hit like no other.
3) Kerry Zeiler (Zylr)- A fanatic about wood choices and cue construction. Takes it very seriously so you know that the cues coming out of his shop are among the best in quality.
1) Southwest- Points or no points they have that reputation for a reason. They know what they are doing.
2) Richard Harris- His players cues / plain janes are top notch. The woods are of excellent caliber and the construction makes them hit like no other.
3) Kerry Zeiler (Zylr)- A fanatic about wood choices and cue construction. Takes it very seriously so you know that the cues coming out of his shop are among the best in quality.
pharaoh68
Banned
mark tadd said:
And that's good thinking too. Spending that knd of money, I'd want to know what I was getting into first myself. Finding people with Southwests for sale isn't too hard. Bluegrass cues are a little more difficult because a lot of people seem to snatch them up pretty quick. And Zylr's are tough to find.
Anyway, good luck with the search.