help my cue sound problem that happened today

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asbani

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Hi cue makers, today I've made a mistake and I regret it so much and I wish I haven't done it.

My butt is 3/8x10 thread, and I have multi-shafts that are 3/8x10, but today I've got one from a friend that is also 3/8x10 but its thread is a bit tight.

Tight in a sense that if I screw it with my butt, it goes in until half-way then it gets very hard.

So I asked my friend to hold the shaft very hard, and I wanted to screw the butt with muscle, and I did. until the end it got very very hard and I kept going until the shaft was locked into my butt.

Then I rolled the cue/shaft on the table and it came a bit wabbely, even though the butt is straight and the shaft is straight, but I think the thread diameter wasn't right, so anyway, I asked the friend to hold the shaft again and unscrew to open it, and I handled the butt with both hands and also unscrewed with him holding the shaft and me the butt.

Anyway with the struggle we did open it, just like the struggle that happened when we wanted to put them together.

But I didn't think that would hurt the cue "butt" itself, but I actually think it did, here's why.

Now I put my regular shaft that I always play with, and whenever I shoot a shot that requires alot of spin, the cue makes a sound and gives me a feeling as if something is actually loose. First I thought it was the shaft tip, I thought it was loose, cause it is the same feeling, but then I removed the regular shaft and put it into another butt that is 3/8x10 too, and the shaft didn't make the sound/lose feeling.

So I said that its possible that i damaged the butts thread :( but i'm not sure, do you guys know what might of happen? and how to resolve this issue and fix it.

thanks


P.S. just to emphasize on the feeling, when you shoot with out spin, it feels like there was a spring or something, I dunno, its weird feeling. and it doesn't happen all the time by the way, some shots it feels ok.
 
Sounds bad, sorry to hear but sounds like you may have broken the pin loose in the butt by either cross threading that new shaft on tightly to the butt to the point where the shaft held tighter to the pin than the epoxy held to the pin in the butt, or something along those lines....hold just the butt section by the handle area loosely and with your Palm of your other hand gently Tap the forearm above the wrap and listen for a rattling vibration sound. This may help diagnose the problem. A loose pin can be reset or replaced, but youwill need a competent builder/repairman to remove, repair, reset the pin if this is the case. Matt D. And good luck...
 
Sunchaser said:
Sounds bad, sorry to hear but sounds like you may have broken the pin loose in the butt by either cross threading that new shaft on tightly to the butt to the point where the shaft held tighter to the pin than the epoxy held to the pin in the butt, or something along those lines....hold just the butt section by the handle area loosely and with your Palm of your other hand gently Tap the forearm above the wrap and listen for a rattling vibration sound. This may help diagnose the problem. A loose pin can be reset or replaced, but youwill need a competent builder/repairman to remove, repair, reset the pin if this is the case. Matt D. And good luck...
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Thanks man, thats what my friend told me too, that the pin might actually gotten loose a little bit but you can't see it with your eyes.

Cause he said that the evidence that you will not be able to see it with your eyes is that because it only happen with hard spin strokes.

Anyway I will do your test to check, and I know a guy who can fix it, but I'm not 100% convinced about him, I'm afraid he will make it worst. But he's the only one I know in the area so.


EDIT: I did the test, but no vibaration, the pin doesn't move
 
whammo57 said:
by all means don't force it......... get a bigger hammer

LOL

Kim
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Yes, it was stupid of me, I don't know what I was thinking...is there any other test to know what's up. Should I put the pin in water for few minutes?
 
My first guess without seeing, hearing , or feeling the cue may be wrong...My second guess would be you actually backed the pin out ever so slightly with the forced two person turn that now the faces aren't touching flush or right with the original shaft; as in the pin now "bottoms out" in the shaft threads. In any case, I would find a competent builder/repairman to take a look. Or as Kim stated..."get a bigger hammer". Again, good luck. ...Matt D.

You can gently but firmly screw the butt to the shaft and look for visible light where the joint faces connect to check this....
 
You really need to take it to a cue maker or a good repairman.... pin might have backed out if the maker did not file a flat on one side.... you might have cross threaded the shaft... the joint faces might need re facing..... might need to drill the hole in the shaft a hair deeper and re tap.........

KIm
 
An update

Guys just an update.

I fixed the issue, and it wasn't the pin or the thread or any of what I suspected. It turned out to be just a weight screw inside the butt that was deep in the middle of the butt, it has gotten loose for some reason. Where I needed an alenkey that has a very long neck so that I could insert it from the back of the butt and then screw that weight deeper so its not loose anymore.

Anyway I couldn't make a connection between a weight and the thing that I have done with my friend about the tight shaft, remember? I dunno, how can a weight gets loose inside the butt exactly at the same time when I tried this tight shaft, it's just coincidence or can me forcibly trying to screw that shaft made the weight loose?

Anyway, after buying a very long alenke and opening the butt from behind and locking that weight further inside, the sound is gone and it's really great now because I can insert more weight or even remove weight with that alenke that I bought, so overall It's a win for me :):wink::grin-square:
 
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