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desertshark

desertshark

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I play 9-ball Monday's on barboxes and 8-ball Wednesday's on 9 foot tables. My long corner cut shots (in the kitchen to opposite corner within the first 2 diamonds in that corner) on the bar boxes are about 90-95% accurate. On the 9 footers I am at 60%. I try to practice at least an hour or two a day but that's on a 8 foot table and I'm fairly accurate, about 80-90%. I try to show early for league and practice these shots repetitively before I play on the tables we play on that night.

Are there any drills or ideas on what I'm doing wrong?

I just started APA and I'm 1-1 on both 8&9 ball and my goal is to rank up to a 6 or higher in this session that ends in May.
My breaks are solid and consistent, I am 99% for dropping a ball off the rack, I can visualize run outs and execute them pretty well, I make good shape about 99% of the time and all my team mates on both teams seem to think I'm a great player.

Any help appreciated.
 
desertshark said:
My breaks are solid and consistent, I am 99% for dropping a ball off the rack, I can visualize run outs and execute them pretty well, I make good shape about 99% of the time and all my team mates on both teams seem to think I'm a great player.

Any help appreciated.
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Seems you are breaking better than the top pros. Take a look at the break stats posted here for recent tournaments.

If you get correct shape 99% of the time are you also running out 99% of the time?

I would suggest you play more games and have a knowledgable and impartial person record your percentages. My guess is their totals will vary a bit from your 99%.

If not ditch the league and go pro.
 
I appreciate the pat on the back but this doesn't help my long cut shots this is the percentage I can't overcome to win all the time and run out all the time. It's my weak spot...

And drills or help for those on 9-foot tables?
 
What about shooting with follow and draw ? Straight shot corner pocket to corner pocket, scratch CB with follow and draw.
 
I'm more referring to cut shots to the pocket. Offset, not straight. I can hit a straight on shot and stop the cue ball or draw back. The issue is offset long shots.
 
I would suggest giving yourself more time focusing on your aim point coupled with taking your cue back slowly on the final back swing.
 
dr9ball said:
I would suggest giving yourself more time focusing on your aim point coupled with taking your cue back slowly on the final back swing.
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You mean like draw back pause then execute shot?

I try to view the ob in direct view of the pocket then walk back to the cue ball not breaking my view on where I need to hit the ob to drop it. I miss by a hair enough not to cheat the pocket.
 
Besides the obvious keep practicing those cut shots till you cannot miss them.

What would help is do you have a pattern to your misses in other words do you miss thin or thick?



desertshark said:
I play 9-ball Monday's on barboxes and 8-ball Wednesday's on 9 foot tables. My long corner cut shots (in the kitchen to opposite corner within the first 2 diamonds in that corner) on the bar boxes are about 90-95% accurate. On the 9 footers I am at 60%. I try to practice at least an hour or two a day but that's on a 8 foot table and I'm fairly accurate, about 80-90%. I try to show early for league and practice these shots repetitively before I play on the tables we play on that night.

Are there any drills or ideas on what I'm doing wrong?

I just started APA and I'm 1-1 on both 8&9 ball and my goal is to rank up to a 6 or higher in this session that ends in May.
My breaks are solid and consistent, I am 99% for dropping a ball off the rack, I can visualize run outs and execute them pretty well, I make good shape about 99% of the time and all my team mates on both teams seem to think I'm a great player.

Any help appreciated.
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Both thick and thin. I've tried to go back to basics. Visualize, view, stance, grip, aim, breath, focus, stroke and miss. I have noticed on bar boxes I'm more accurate, with the 9 foot tables I can't seem to just stand and look at it like a bar box, I have to walk to see it and aim.
 
The problem may not be aiming but stoke delivery.

How are you with long straight stop shots or stifling the cue ball up and down the table.


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If the ob is on or near the rail or pocket I can sink it with little effort. As far as stifling, I assume you mean hitting whitey up the table and have it hit the foot rail and back? I am usually within a tip of center if the bumpers aren't dead.
It seems if the angle is 25 degrees or more and six inches or further I am in trouble.
On a bar box its not an issue.
 
desertshark said:
You mean like draw back pause then execute shot?

I try to view the ob in direct view of the pocket then walk back to the cue ball not breaking my view on where I need to hit the ob to drop it. I miss by a hair enough not to cheat the pocket.
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Yes but draw back slowly and before you start your final drawback, shift your eyes to the aiming point on your object ball and focus for 2 or 3 seconds to lock in where you want to go.
 
Yes that is what I meant. If you have no trouble getting the cueball to come back to your tip, then your delivery may be fine. Remember though if you do practice that drill, try it with different speeds. I also like to practice that drill with extreme draw and a firm speed. If you can hit your tip using draw and a firm stroke your delivery process is good.

Set up the same shot you have trouble with, but set the cueball up closer to the OB. practice the shot. When you have it down, move the cueball back a diamond, and do it again. Keep doing this till you find the distance that you cannot pocket the ball with consistency.

Look up progressive drills on this site, this is what I have in mind for you.

Bob Jewett of this forum has published a lot of work on progressive drills.

Remember transitioning from a BB to a 9 takes some getting used to, besides the distance the angles are different too.

There is nothing wrong with approaching the shot at the angle you are hitting it at to visualize the contact point, like you described earlier.

desertshark said:
If the ob is on or near the rail or pocket I can sink it with little effort. As far as stifling, I assume you mean hitting whitey up the table and have it hit the foot rail and back? I am usually within a tip of center if the bumpers aren't dead.
It seems if the angle is 25 degrees or more and six inches or further I am in trouble.
On a bar box its not an issue.
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desertshark said:
Both thick and thin. I've tried to go back to basics. Visualize, view, stance, grip, aim, breath, focus, stroke and miss. I have noticed on bar boxes I'm more accurate, with the 9 foot tables I can't seem to just stand and look at it like a bar box, I have to walk to see it and aim.
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desertshark.. Are the pockets on the 9 foot table smaller than the bar boxes? Put 2 balls side by side in the corner pockets.

That may be part of the 9' accuracy problem. Before shooting look from behind the OB into the pocket to see the opening.
You may have to aim by favoring to one or the other side of the pocket facings. No I'm not an instructor.. but this may help.
 
Ralph Kramden said:
desertshark.. Are the pockets on the 9 foot table smaller than the bar boxes? Put 2 balls side by side in the corner pockets.

That may be part of the 9' accuracy problem. Before shooting look from behind the OB into the pocket to see the opening.
You may have to aim by favoring to one or the other side of the pocket facings. No I'm not an instructor.. but this may help.
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I don't believe they are smaller but they could be shimmed. I'll have to look next week when I go back to play.

Tony, I found a few pdfs of Bob Jewetts and ill be printing them off before I go play.
 
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