Help with Dust Collector Setup?

GrimmCustomCues

GrimmCustomCues

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Hey everyone, I bought a small dust collector a few days ago and I'm trying to design the setup so I can order the remaining parts. My work shop is very small, 8'x16'. It's actually a loft/room in my garage. I was wondering if I should install the dust collector inside or outside of the room? I'm worried if I install it outside, and the room is fairly sealed that it will cause a vacuum and I will lose a bunch of suction from the collector. Any thoughts, or ideas you might have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Richard
 
Did you buy the top of the line O'neida Cyclone?
Joey~Hates lack of detail questions~
 
If you install it inside it will spread whatever dust passes through the filter all over the inside of your shop and lungs. 10 microns, 5 microns or 1 micron, it's your choice.

Outside is always best.
 
JoeyInCali said:
http://www.google.com/products/cata...=X&ei=LNmlTfq6OI70swPzurT5DA&ved=0CDQQ8wIwAg#
Too weak to go outside I think.
You better have the canister . Those canvas bags let a ton of dust through.
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I'm trying to install it in a position under or on a wall that will keep my 4" tubes around or less than 10' from the unit. I believe that will help a little. I picked up this dust collector for $75, which I thought was a good deal. I'm trying to start off small and upgrade as I need to with the shop since I've been spending a arse load of money on wood lately.

Richard
 
Trent said:
what all are you hooking it up 2????
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Well I'm planning on having a bunch of blast gates and only using 1 machine at a time thus getting the most out of the collector till I can afford a larger one. Currently I have a Cue building lathe, Cue finishing lathe, CNC Mill, Planer, Cut-off Saw, Band Saw, Belt Sander, Table Saw and Small spray booth. The Cut-off saw and table saw are both underneath my work shop in the garage but I plan on having the dust collector connected to them too just so my garage doesnt become a total disaster. If I plan on cutting large amounts of wood I can move them outside.

Richard
 
Dave38 said:
Is there a conversion kit to change your existing bag to a canister? I have an older (4 yrs) delta with a bag and would like to change to a canister.
DFave
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I don't know if there is Dave.
I bought a Jet. The new Vortex one even looks better.
These suckers aren't cheap but I got a great deal for $299 at Fleabay one time.
When you clean that canister, you'd be amazed what's in there.
Those canvas dust collectors don't collect dust. They collect chips.
 
Bill the Cat said:
.....start here. Mr. Pentz has compiled a ton of information on the hazards created by shop dust and methods of dust collection.

http://billpentz.com/woodworking/Cyclone/Index.cfm
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So Bill, what Mr Pentz is saying is.... scrap every idea I originally had and go with twice or even 3 times the size I thought I needed and use 6" mains with 5" drops. Crazy how much there really is to dust collection, and the health risks associated with it! Actually scares me a bit. I'm not sure if I can find a DC large enough that I can afford along with all the accessories and tubing required to do it right. Back to the drawing board I go. LOL. Thanks though, learned a lot.

Richard
 
Don't lose hope.

GrimmCustomCues said:
So Bill, what Mr Pentz is saying is.... scrap every idea I originally had and go with twice or even 3 times the size I thought I needed and use 6" mains with 5" drops. Crazy how much there really is to dust collection, and the health risks associated with it! Actually scares me a bit. I'm not sure if I can find a DC large enough that I can afford along with all the accessories and tubing required to do it right. Back to the drawing board I go. LOL. Thanks though, learned a lot.

Richard
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Yeah, it is a little disheartening to read some of his stuff, but he does offer lesser solutions that won't break the bank. I don't know if you followed this link from the page I put in my last post, but take a look here too.

http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/DCConversion.cfm
 
Bill the Cat said:
Yeah, it is a little disheartening to read some of his stuff, but he does offer lesser solutions that won't break the bank. I don't know if you followed this link from the page I put in my last post, but take a look here too.

http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/DCConversion.cfm
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McWorter uses a 1.5 with a bag outside in his main shop with 4"(i believe) gates. His shaft and butt TS machine are in a pretty small building(6x10 maybe) he built about 20 feet away with no DC. He doesn't use routers in the main shop.
 
Anyone ever used a penn state industries dust collector before? Wondering how good they are. They seem more affordable than the other canister style DC's.

Richard
 
JoeyInCali said:
Did you lose sucking power, Gary ?
I have another brand of separator. It sucks power down.
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I haven't really noticed any loss of sucking power. It's hooked up to a Ridgid 12 gal/4.25 HP shop vac - that's not the biggest, baddest Ridgid there is, but it's adequate. I don't try to run multiple hoses all over the shop, I just move the single suction hose (2 1/2 in. dia) to the tool I am working with. It could be worse, but it could be better - next step is to route the exhaust outside - yeah, the filter says it's .5 micron, but I don't have any way to measure that and I've learned to distrust most manufacturer's claims to greatness.

But that's what I've got.

Gary

BTW - I like your new avatar better than the last one, but maybe not better than the one before that. <<-- has to admit he likes boobs better than butts.
 
GEBrown said:
Based on the information on Bill Petz's site I went with one of these:

http://dustdeputy.com/howitworks.htm

Then I use a HEPA .5 micron filter inside my shop vac.

Works pretty well - IMHO

Gary
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I got it today Gary.
It works real nice. The suction power of the SHop Vac is a tad weaker but since the bag stays cleaner, it is stronger in the long run.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Shop-Vac-952026...190524202327?pt=US_Vacuum&hash=item2c5c209d57
I'm thinking of getting that next as it's very quiet and can be hung far away.
 
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