Help with info about the Schon SL10 model?

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justinb386

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I am just curious when Schon started making the SL10 cue (or the entire series of SL cues), and when that model (or the entire series) was discontinued?

Is this a question that I would need to ask Schon (Evan Clarke) directly, or do any of you guys know?

Also, I am curious to know what a fair price to ask for a Schon SL10 cue (if it was in good condition)?

The cue in question is in need if a refinish (many nicks and dings in it), and it comes with 2 shafts (shafts are very worn out / very blue all the way down to the joint, but in decent condition).

Would getting it refinished affect the selling price much (by at least $150 for example), or would you just sell it "as is"?

Thanks for any thoughts about the cue.
 

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A quick search and a quick Google yields this. Ain't got the foggiest about value. I would say, unless it's a super valuable or irreplaceable cue, a thorough cleaning is always helpful. Two cars side by side. One all rusty and oxidized, one freshly detailed. Which would you buy? I have an R7 Cocobola with a brand new OB shaft and I don't consider it any big shakes.


http://www.palmercollector.com/Schon/SchonSLseries.html


https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=history+of+schon+sl+cues


http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=188985&highlight=cleaning+shafts
 
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Bob 14:1 said:
A quick search and a quick Google yields this. Ain't got the foggiest about value. I would say, unless it's a super valuable or irreplaceable cue, a thorough cleaning is always helpful. Two cars side by side. One all rusty and oxidized, one freshly detailed. Which would you buy? I have an R7 Cocobola with a brand new OB shaft and I don't consider it any big shakes.


http://www.palmercollector.com/Schon/SchonSLseries.html


https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=history+of+schon+sl+cues


http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=188985&highlight=cleaning+shafts
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Thanks for your reply, and good advice. I have never been too bright about cue buying.
 
Sl 10

Blue book 3rd edition.
98% new condition 850.00 to 70 % new condition 410.00
I could be wrong but I believe the SL 10 came out in 1999.
 
justinb386 said:
(shafts are very worn out / but in decent condition).
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Which is it???

If it were me, I'd contact MMike above to fabricate a nice new shaft. If you're a player, you pretty much have a new, dented cue to use or to sell much more easily.

You can also buy a new factory Schon shaft for c. $130. I'm guessing a total refurb would be costwise unfeasable.
Ooooor, you can do what I just did, give it to a Senior Center, or a teenager. The youngster I gave mine to, was overcome with joy and gratitude.

It won't earn you a million bucks, but my having done this exact thing over Easter, I totally guarantee you'll certainly feel like a million bucks!
 
I'm feeling foolish, and frankly wish I hadn't wasted my time.

You hawk cues all the time.

This is nothing more than a thinly guised attempt to get a wider viewership for a beat up cue you wish to dump via posting irrelevant questions on the Main forum.

I only offered my novice advice because everyone else was ignoring the thread. I can only blame myself for being so easily duped...

600 threads should have made me more astute, but hindsight is 20:20.
 
None of the CNC cues are really collectable. Nice cue, if really nice its worth around a nickel.
 
iirc the sl 10 is a k/o of a bushka k/o( st 31(?)) which may have been a k/o of another model w/sharp spliced pts, that said, the piece is worth a due-berry +- because 5 hun or so got to be dropped to get it slick, shafts an all
 
i am getting confused about the cue

it was my favorite,either this model or the sharp pointed one

at one time i was going to get schon to make me a run of 7 more simply because i like them
then evan left and i more or less lost interest

this particular model even the colors is my favorite

if i were to own it,i would sell it as is,i have never refinished a cue in all my years
the trouble of shipping alone deters it in my opinion

however if i owned that cue and wanted to keep it,i might just refinish it,i like it very much


also i thought it was sl30 and the 6 pointer was sl 40,but i never remember details

my guess is that with 2 good shafts the cue would bring $600 or even more
i saw a sharp pointer bring $900 about a year ago

nice cue,i would gladly take it in trade if i had something you wanted

dean
 
Bob 14:1 said:
I'm feeling foolish, and frankly wish I hadn't wasted my time.

You hawk cues all the time.

This is nothing more than a thinly guised attempt to get a wider viewership for a beat up cue you wish to dump via posting irrelevant questions on the Main forum.

I only offered my novice advice because everyone else was ignoring the thread. I can only blame myself for being so easily duped...

600 threads should have made me more astute, but hindsight is 20:20.
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No, you are completely wrong. I hawk cues all of the time? You must be joking. This is my 2nd cue in over a year. I love the looks of the cue, and the only reason I am now wanting to sell it, is because there is this other cue I really want to buy. I am looking for a player, that I will want to keep (not looking to make a business out of buying and selling cues). Think what you want, but you are wrong about everything that you said.
 
This looks and sounds like the cue Bryan Roberts had for sale. If so, it is a nice solid cue. Shafts are easy to find and the value is in the 500-750 range around here.
 
deanoc said:
i am getting confused about the cue

it was my favorite,either this model or the sharp pointed one

at one time i was going to get schon to make me a run of 7 more simply because i like them
then evan left and i more or less lost interest

this particular model even the colors is my favorite

if i were to own it,i would sell it as is,i have never refinished a cue in all my years
the trouble of shipping alone deters it in my opinion

however if i owned that cue and wanted to keep it,i might just refinish it,i like it very much


also i thought it was sl30 and the 6 pointer was sl 40,but i never remember details

my guess is that with 2 good shafts the cue would bring $600 or even more
i saw a sharp pointer bring $900 about a year ago

nice cue,i would gladly take it in trade if i had something you wanted

dean
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Thanks for your advice. I love the looks of the cue too. I really love the ringwork. It is in pretty ugly condition right now (the rings can be felt, and the entire cue is just filled with nicks and dings). The shafts look horrible, but at least they are not damaged in any way (no nicks or dings in them). I am sure the cue would be really beautiful after getting refinished. I understand that the quality of a refinish job is different for different cue makers. The local cue maker (Tony Sauer) here in Louisville charges around $75 for a refinish (I am told by the locals, but not sure), but I am not sure if it would be a very good quality finish or not. I know that other cue makers charge $200 and up for a refinish (like my favorite cue maker Mike Durbin). Durbin quoted $200 for a refinish a long time ago, but who know how much he charges now. Anyways, I am just wondering if the more money a cue maker charges, the higher grade of a finish will be on the cue? Are the refinishing methods that different cue makers use that much different? Just curious.
 
justinb386 said:
Thanks for your advice. I love the looks of the cue too. I really love the ringwork. It is in pretty ugly condition right now (the rings can be felt, and the entire cue is just filled with nicks and dings). The shafts look horrible, but at least they are not damaged in any way (no nicks or dings in them). I am sure the cue would be really beautiful after getting refinished. I understand that the quality of a refinish job is different for different cue makers. The local cue maker (Tony Sauer) here in Louisville charges around $75 for a refinish (I am told by the locals, but not sure), but I am not sure if it would be a very good quality finish or not. I know that other cue makers charge $200 and up for a refinish (like my favorite cue maker Mike Durbin). Durbin quoted $200 for a refinish a long time ago, but who know how much he charges now. Anyways, I am just wondering if the more money a cue maker charges, the higher grade of a finish will be on the cue? Are the refinishing methods that different cue makers use that much different? Just curious.
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Tony is a stand-up guy. You'll get good work.

Why do you keep trashing your cues? Every cue you get ends up needing a refinish/is in ugly condition. $75 refinish will earn you an extra $100 on the cue. Just sell it for what you paid and be done with it.
 
SC02GTP said:
This looks and sounds like the cue Bryan Roberts had for sale. If so, it is a nice solid cue. Shafts are easy to find and the value is in the 500-750 range around here.
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Bryan Roberts has a lot of very nice cues for sale. Sad that he does not care to do any trading. Either that, or maybe he was just completely uninterested in the Jacoby that I showed him. I was really interested in a few of his cues, but he told me that he is not into trading. He is a really nice guy though, and he does some really great repair work. I wish he did not charge so much for a deep cleaning though. Would cost $20 per shaft for a deep cleaning, or $10 per shaft for just a regular cleaning.
 
Bob 14:1 said:
Which is it???

If it were me, I'd contact MMike above to fabricate a nice new shaft. If you're a player, you pretty much have a new, dented cue to use or to sell much more easily.

You can also buy a new factory Schon shaft for c. $130. I'm guessing a total refurb would be costwise unfeasable.
Ooooor, you can do what I just did, give it to a Senior Center, or a teenager. The youngster I gave mine to, was overcome with joy and gratitude.

It won't earn you a million bucks, but my having done this exact thing over Easter, I totally guarantee you'll certainly feel like a million bucks!
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The shafts are very worn out, but I do not think they need to be replaced. They are free of any dings. They just need a good deep cleaning I think. That was really nice what you did for that kid (or young man?). That is the type of generosity that most people do not have within them.
 
garczar said:
None of the CNC cues are really collectable. Nice cue, if really nice its worth around a nickel.
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I am clueless as to what CNC mean, but I do understand that the rounded points means that it was made using CNC method. The ivory inlays are super sharp and seem to have been done by hand (not CNC). The inlays are not rounded, like I see on many other Schon cues.
 
Bryan's prices are not high when you consider:
1. He has overhead he has to pay for
2. Consider the time it takes to learn the skills to properly do the job
3. Consider the cost of the lathe, cleaning supplies, the risk factor if it does not meet your standards
4. He is a small business and needs to turn a profit, his time is money
5. He is the BEST in the area for what you need done

He more than likely did not want to trade you because:
1. He can get Jacoby cues at direct pricing, he talks to Dave often and picked up 4 Jacoby's at the DCC this year.
2. The cue you bought was not his and on consignment. He has to answer to the owner of the cue and assumes all of the risks
3. He did not feel like he could be where he needs to be on the cue and satisfy the owner, in other words, the trade value was just not there in his eyes for his end.
 
ribdoner said:
iirc the sl 10 is a k/o of a bushka k/o( st 31(?)) which may have been a k/o of another model w/sharp spliced pts, that said, the piece is worth a due-berry +- because 5 hun or so got to be dropped to get it slick, shafts an all
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Yeah, and even Adams (the maker of the Balabushka replica cues) made all of their cues with very sharp points and veneers. If a Japanese production cue company can do it, then why not Schon?
 
ideologist said:
Tony is a stand-up guy. You'll get good work.

Why do you keep trashing your cues? Every cue you get ends up needing a refinish/is in ugly condition. $75 refinish will earn you an extra $100 on the cue. Just sell it for what you paid and be done with it.
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Lol, I have never dinged a cue in my life, and I have had more cues over the years then I can count. The cues were purchased by me in the condition that they were in when the time came that I needed to sell them. I have never mistreated a cue in the 20 years that I have been playing (on and off that is).
 
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