Younger player would be a C+, and the older gentlemen would be a B where I play. As far as APA ratings are concerned, I would guess SL3 and SL5, respectively.
i kinda like these videos by regular league players. it lets me know how i compare.
once i get the technical know how and the equipment i might just put up a video and show ya'll how much i suck at this game lol.
I already did it once, a year and a half ago. I'm kinda hoping that I start to get in a consistent groove and have something better to show, sometime this year.
Most any smartphone will do it, enough for the purpose of the exercise.
I'm beginning to think these are less an "experiment" and more "how do I rate" videos. With that said, I do appreciate the premise and I do appreciate seeing a video of actual competition. I watched the entire video this time because it felt far more genuine than the first.
Both you and Matt suffer from the same problem many lower level players do. You think this game is about pocketing balls. Neither of you possess an understanding of the game, the cue ball control, nor the shot making ability to be considered higher than a C+, IMHO. I think if you were having a great day, Dave, you might just creep up to B-. You demonstrate some shot making knowledge and a rudimentary understanding of where the cue ball is going. However, whether by lack of ability or knowledge, you often don't seem able to make it go where it should. Around here I'd call you a C to C+.
Matt, on the other hand, I'd call a C-, period. I couldn't imagine him creeping up to C, much less C+, but I hesitate to call him a D+ based on what I saw. I imagine there are days he could probably drop into the D range and perhaps the rare occasion he'd play like a C.
For reference:
Dave: C to C+, APA - very strong SL4 to mid 5, TAP - mid to strong 4 maybe up to a weak 5
Matt: D+ to C, APA - strong SL3 to mid 4, TAP - 3
Obviously this is my opinion, of course, I like to think I'm pretty close. ChicagoJoe and I play in the same area, I'll ask him to watch and offer his opinion. If he clocks them fairly similarly it's a good bet we're right on for this area at least compared to players who aren't sandbagging.
Hope the info helps. I'm interested in any results you come up with. Let us know.
Younger player would be a C+, and the older gentlemen would be a B where I play. As far as APA ratings are concerned, I would guess SL3 and SL5, respectively.
Pretty spot on for our area. Younger guy might bounce around from 3-4 and the older guy might bounce around from 4-5 in APA or TAP.
From what i saw .... older guy is a C+ , kid is a C.
O.g. may have played as a decent B at one time and does have "experience" , but has peaked out years ago .
Kid has yet to reach his peak, needs more xp.
apa 6s on a BBOX. in my area.
6's? Wow. Ya'all need to step it up out there!
Agreed. Not a chance.
From what i saw .... older guy is a C+ , kid is a C.
O.g. may have played as a decent B at one time and does have "experience" , but has peaked out years ago .
Kid has yet to reach his peak, needs more xp.
apa 6s on a BBOX. in my area.
6's ? wow !!
you must play in the same league that a guy i met in vegas does lol. he said he has been an apa captain for 19 years and had never seen a 5 like me. he said most 7's in his area could not play at my level.
granted they may play better on bar boxes but i just don't see them being 6's.
gotta tell you what happened last night.
we play on bar boxes 80% of the time. we rotate to 9's twice a session. last night was our turn on the 9's.
i threw out my g/f's 18 year old son who joined our team last session. he has played less than 30 racks his entire life and won only 1 match last session. he is a 2.
they threw a 5. now this 5 is kinda inconsistent like me. he also plays napa and 2 in house leagues every week on the 9's.
now logic says a 5 who plays 4 nights a week with 2 of those nights being on 9's in a league that he has played on for at least 3 years oughta walk all over a 2 who has never played on a 9' in his life.
well i guess that 5 had one of those bad nights we all have from time to time and ...lost . unbelievable to me.
what i am getting at is both of those guys in the video coulda been having bad nights but i still don;t think they would play like a 6 on a good night...bar table or not.
Well I may lean towards OG as a 6 and kids a 5 if a 7 was a true B- or better player on a 9 ft. (ill add im using APA 8ball as my scale since its the most common )but in my area when I did play bar leagues I remember playing at this speed and I was never rated less then a 6 . When i was a true C+ - inconsistent B , I was considered a Good 7 in the APA . I shot at everything , made more then i missed . wtf .......its a bar table .
But I know that theres more differences in true skill level in the 7sl alone then the first 3 combined.
Alot of our "home town bar " 7s dont even know theres a whole world of next lvl players that would have a rating of 8,9 or 10sl to their 7sl if there was no cap and a larger interest of solid B+ - A- A+-players.
Ive played in non apa leagues that were alot more inline with your scale , where as a good C o n a 9' table your floating between 4 and 5.
Ive met APA 7s that thought a 9Foot table had 5 more legs .:slap:,
Ok , now back to our "experiment".![]()
Well I may lean towards OG as a 6 and kids a 5 if a 7 was a true B- or better player on a 9 ft. (ill add im using APA 8ball as my scale since its the most common )but in my area when I did play bar leagues I remember playing at this speed and I was never rated less then a 6 . When i was a true C+ - inconsistent B , I was considered a Good 7 in the APA . I shot at everything , made more then i missed . wtf .......its a bar table .
But I know that theres more differences in true skill level in the 7sl alone then the first 3 combined.
Alot of our "home town bar " 7s dont even know theres a whole world of next lvl players that would have a rating of 8,9 or 10sl to their 7sl if there was no cap and a larger interest of solid B+ - A- A+-players.
Ive played in non apa leagues that were alot more inline with your scale , where as a good C o n a 9' table your floating between 4 and 5.
Ive met APA 7s that thought a 9Foot table had 5 more legs .:slap:,
Ok , now back to our "experiment".![]()
One advantage of the BU Exams and BU Rating System is that the results are independent of league or region.Yea, its def . a regional thing and consider this. Take 100 ranked/unranked players in one area....another 100 in another....play and rank by APA guidelines.....theres gonna be differences..,,,sometimes major differences... even from division to division in same towns/cities.
Thats even plausable to how some "honest" people have gotten disqualified at "vegas"......the inconsistency in a nationwide ratings system....oh....and an epidemic of sandbagging of course...
Not many league matches are played out on anything bigger then an 8footer around here. The bars keep the leagues and the bar tables........We got 9 footies (and some bar tables for the weak knees) and we get the players...
Yea, its def . a regional thing and consider this. Take 100 ranked/unranked players in one area....another 100 in another....play and rank by APA guidelines.....theres gonna be differences..,,,sometimes major differences... even from division to division in same towns/cities.
Thats even plausable to how some "honest" people have gotten disqualified at "vegas"......the inconsistency in a nationwide ratings system....oh....and an epidemic of sandbagging of course...
Not many league matches are played out on anything bigger then an 8footer around here. The bars keep the leagues and the bar tables........We got 9 footies (and some bar tables for the weak knees) and we get the players...