Hey Willie Jopling! Aren't you forgetting something??

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In last months (December) Billiards Digest, he diagrammed 3 position shots. Each one is posted individually below.

He said he'd show what speed and English to use in order to make the shots.

Yesterday the new Billiards Digest came and guess what? Nothing. Come on Willie. I'm devastated and I've drank all of my eggnog. Help me out. :D
 
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Shot #1

Shot #1.

You have ball in hand anywhere behind the headstring. You must go into the foot kitchen behind the 6ball, hit three rails without touching a ball, and come out of the kitchen below the 10ball. I have an idea, but I'm not sure if it's correct. If my idea is correct, it's a very difficult shot.
 

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Shot #2

There is no cueball. The balls are frozen. Shoot each of the six balls into the six pockets. Each ball must go into a different pocket without disturbing the setup. Each ball must be shot directly at the pocket. No banks allowed. The 6ball must be shot last. Shoot the 6ball with center or bottom-left english.
 

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Shot #3 (Quoted verbatim from Billiards Digest)

All your mark has to do is break these three balls as hard as he wants to, and make them in the two corner pockets at the head of the table in a certain amount of shots. You tell him each time he misses a ball is spotted up. Then you ask him how many shots he wants to clear the table. How many shots should you give him? It doesn't matter. Once he breaks and doesn't make a ball, then you spot one. Now, he may wake up to the fact that he now has to make four balls, etc., if he misses again.

Now, if it turns out that they guy can't play, tell him you won't spot a ball after the break anymore. Or, if he can't hit the end rail, tell him you won't spot any ball when he misses. Try this yourself without spotting any balls on the break, and see how you like it.

I hope it's OK that I quoted directly from the magazine. You can do that as long as you say where you got it right?
 

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I understand #3. What I want to know is how to shoot #1 and #2.
 
It's not his fault...

Hal...Ooops...my bad. I posted that his column was left out, before I saw the Jan. issue! I guess Bill just forgot that he was going to tell the secret in the next month's column. Heck, if all of us can still even PLAY pool when we're 80, let alone well, AND write a magazine column too...we'll be doing good! LOL I could tell you how to shoot both shots, but I'll defer to Willie. It will likely be in the Feb. issue. If you're going to DCC, he or I can show you the answers...they are much simpler than you might imagine! :D :D :D
BTW, Bill does not have a computer, so he doesn't frequent here, nor is able to answer questions here.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
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Shot #1.

You have ball in hand anywhere behind the headstring. You must go into the foot kitchen behind the 6ball, hit three rails without touching a ball, and come out of the kitchen below the 10ball. I have an idea, but I'm not sure if it's correct. If my idea is correct, it's a very difficult shot.[/QUOTE]

From either the left side of the head string, use extreme bottom english and hit the rail as close to the SIX ball on the long rail but make sure you are still inside the 2nd and 1st diamond.

Vary your speed if you are still hitting the OB on the other side of the table.

Shot #2

Shoot the 3 ball first into the farthest corner.. (hint.. must use a little masse)
 
I'm on an 8 foot table. I keep hitting the 7ball. And when I finally do miss the 7ball, the third rail is outside the foot kitchen.
 
Tom's right on shot #2 as the 3 ball is the toughie as well as the near side pocket 4 ball.

Side note*: you can move the set up to the first diamond near the short rail on the 2nd diagram to make everything a bit harder!
 
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I made shot #2. You have to "jack up" slightly and aim straight up the table shooting the 3ball with just a touch of masse. The order I shot them is:

3ball
4ball
2ball
1ball
5ball
6ball
 

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Hal said:
I made shot #2. You have to "jack up" slightly and aim straight up the table shooting the 3ball with just a touch of masse. The order I shot them is:

3ball
4ball
2ball
1ball
5ball
6ball
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Since you are masseing, if you masse the 4 rather than the 3 to begin with you have a slightly easier shot to near side with the six. The 1-2-3 all go to the other side of the table. I remember seeing this shot forty years ago, but I don't remember the masse in the solution to it.
 
Tom In Cincy said:
Shot #1. ... from either the left side of the head string, use extreme bottom english and hit the rail as close to the SIX ball on the long rail but make sure you are still inside the 2nd and 1st diamond. ...
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I think you also want some reverse with the draw. The trick is to hit it softly enough that the draw can take.
 
Hal,

I would think shot #1 would be MUCH tougher on an 8' table. Most of these type of challenges become very very difficult on tables smaller than 9'. There's just not enough room between everything :D.

I'm not saying it can't be done...

-s
 
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