hi Tony...
Tony Zinzola said:
Here's the problem. You posted this "idea" in the main section, with no formal plan on what to do with the money or even how to collect it. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would send a payment once you have something set up. I read your thread and I have some money sitting in my paypal account. I was going to send some money your way, but there was no information on how to make a payment.
Also, there are a lot of people out of work these days. I get asked for money every time I leave my house. Every other day, there is somebody asking for money to send somebody to a tournament or for whatever on the forums.
Yes, my cues sell for good money as do other makers in this section. Don't think for a minute that just because we sell a cue for $1,000 or $2,000 that we have a lot of money. It takes a lot of time and expense to build those cues and nearly every dime we collect gets pumped back in so that we can make more cues. Maybe you were referring to the collectors and not the makers, but that's not how I took it. But, since you think we all have a lot of money to waste, I'll let you know that this year, I have made less than 1/2 of what I've made the last ten plus years. This economy is killing my main business and hopefully it will turn around soon.
Maybe once you have a real plan together to collect the money, more people will be on board. Until then, maybe you shouldn't judge everybody here.
you really want to beat me up, huh? maybe i deserve it. but here are the facts - nothing but facts [not updated since yesterday and it is greater now]:
11/17 - we first created this thread, the forum response was just Wonderful!
11/18 we addressed a cursory plan - getting permission from AzB, info on tax consequences, whom to donated to, paypal info, etc. plus we already had 16 people committing to money or material gifts.
11/19 we were starting to nail things down a bit - post 43. more commitments for gifts.
11/20 Rocket354 who volunteers at a local Boys/Girls Club here chimed in on post 55 with more info and insight of Boys/Girls Clubs.
11/21 we kind of had most of the basics in place - post 57, and we started to get contributions almost immediately with about 25 donor commitments.
and finally here is the last list I posted of donors [not updated as of yet today]:
where we stand as on now: 11/22 @ 10:25 PM
________________________________________
legend:
{} = gave already
$ = gave money
^ = will be making a material gift
* = fulfilled their commitment
*{The King}$
*{srs314}$
Jerry Forsyth
Mike Howerton
Black-Balled
rayjay
^{Purdman} [contribution given on a PM - so I can not say what it is, but trust me it is a really wonderful gift]
poolhustler
koop
AnitoKid (and me together)
*{iba7467}$
drawman623
^{rackmsuckr} [all i can say it will be very substantial gifts]
^{Dartman} - [contributing cloth for 3 tables]
KoolKat9Lives
kath13
Klink
^{manwon} - [WOW - purchase cues/accessories for donations at cost + 2 mcdermott cues with cases]
^{will8834} - [donating custom cue]
Cuephoric
*{Sam Waltz}$
rossaroni
ratnip
smokey
*{OneArmed}$
*{12squared}$
*{burns420}$
there is one more but would rather remain anonymous
if i missed anybody, please chime in.
WOW WOW WOW - you guys/girls are just sooooo kind,
smokey
well Tony, i have said all i can say.
all the best,
smokey
p.s. by the way...
this was not in any way, shape or form directed at cue makers per se. as we all know we have buyers here that can spend huge money, i really mean HUGE Money and yet not one even showed any concern for 'our kids'.
it is so sad to me. it is so disheartening to me personally. i was taught differently i guess.
be that as it may, i too am having a terrible time financially this year. but i and my family will do with less now because i think, very differently than some of me Az friends in this section of our forum.
i have nothing more to say.
