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High run in one pocket
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different or unusual maybe, but certainly not "gaff".
So when Allen Hopkins and I break it's a gaff***, but when you break it's not? There's been many people use this type break playing one pocket, especially on the 10' table.
Even Corey Deuel and Shannon Dalton have used this type break in competition and no knowledgeable person ever called it a "gaff break".
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4gaff noun
Definition of GAFF
1
a : something painful or difficult to bear : ordeal —usually used in the phrase stand the gaff; especially : persistent raillery or criticism
b : rough treatment : abuse
2
a : hoax, fraud
b : gimmick, trick
Origin of GAFF
origin unknown
First Known Use: 1896
So when Allen Hopkins and I break it's a gaff***, but when you break it's not? There's been many people use this type break playing one pocket, especially on the 10' table.
Even Corey Deuel and Shannon Dalton have used this type break in competition and no knowledgeable person ever called it a "gaff break".
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4gaff noun
Definition of GAFF
1
a : something painful or difficult to bear : ordeal —usually used in the phrase stand the gaff; especially : persistent raillery or criticism
b : rough treatment : abuse
2
a : hoax, fraud
b : gimmick, trick
Origin of GAFF
origin unknown
First Known Use: 1896
CJ:
Please see post #41 above. Read the second sentence where the OP says, and I quote, "And yes, this is exactly what I was asking."
Expounding a bit further on my point, how often do you see Corey Deuel and Shannon Dalton using this break in competition? Maybe in one or two matches? In fact, if you look at the Accu-Stats catalog, those "one or two" matches are highlighted precisely because of those unique smash 'em breaks.
I don't know about Shannon Dalton (haven't kept up with Shannon's game), but I know for a fact you don't see Corey Deuel using that type of smash 'em break any more!
So yes, I stick with my assertion that using a "smash 'em" break in one pocket is a gaff break. The only time you'll see someone using this, is in precisely the type of YouTube video you created -- where you weren't in competition, and your focus is on trying to get the pack opened up good; i.e. without care if balls also head in the direction of the opposing pocket, so you can run as many balls as you can. Not that there's anything wrong with that -- I use a smash 'em break in one pocket as well for ball-running purposes. But in competition, I'd never use that break.
No amount of fortune-cookie copying and pasting of online dictionaries is going to change that.
Sorry,
-Sean
I ran 11 n out last night giving up 10-8 was sweet
you haven't "real eyesed" what we actually do - it's certainly not a wide open break
If you think Allen and I use the "smash em" break you haven't "real eyesed" what we actually do.....it's certainly not a wide open break by any stretch of the imagination. This type of break takes much more skill than the "regular" one-pocket break and is highly effective on a 10' table.
If you think Allen and I use the "smash em" break you haven't "real eyesed" what we actually do.....it's certainly not a wide open break by any stretch of the imagination. This type of break takes much more skill than the "regular" one-pocket break and is highly effective on a 10' table.
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CJ:
I know Allen, too. And I know how to do that break you reference, and show in your YouTube video. I can execute it quite well, actually. I still would NEVER use that style of break in real competition. You give your opponent way too much of an easy time to answer -- most likely to run out on you. No meme is going to change that.
-Sean <-- eyes are real, and just fine
please explain how the break is executed, I'd be impressed
Then please explain how the break is executed, I'd be impressed if you could answer the following questions correctly.
1) What ball do you hit first?
2) What spin do you impart on the cue-ball?
3) Is there any target on the rail that you try to hit?
4) What is the role of the cue-ball in this type break?
Here is the Link if anyone else wants to answer these questions, or make comments.
Then please explain how the break is executed, I'd be impressed if you could answer the following questions correctly.
1) What ball do you hit first?
2) What spin do you impart on the cue-ball?
3) Is there any target on the rail that you try to hit?
4) What is the role of the cue-ball in this type break?
Here is the Link if anyone else wants to answer these questions, or make comments.
Ya know CJ, I love watching that video, but sometimes it makes me want to give up! You do it with such ease! I have to get fairly lucky! Oh well, back to table
It certainly proves I spent my share of time in the pool room growing up. 
Ya know CJ, I love watching that video, but sometimes it makes me want to give up! You do it with such ease! I have to get fairly lucky! Oh well, back to table