Highest Demand Current Cues?

mikemosconi said:
I may be wrong on this, and higher end cue sellers won't like it; but I think that the days of buying cues at X price and seeing major appreciation in price beyond normal inflation are gone. I don't think that many cues selling at market for $4,000 today will sell for $6,000 in 5 years from now - just bc of demand - but maybe bc of hyper inflation- who knows.
Most players seem to be shunning the traditional maple shafts anyhow, so not using the complete cue from a maker that charges $3,000+ for one of his new cues seems rather odd to me.
I always collected cues from various makers as much for playability as for appearance. I believe that playability involves using the entire cue from someone who built an entire cue with their own hands. Wood selection, and construction etc. had a lot to do with the appreciation of a cue makers skills- for me anyhow, and the shaft was an integral part of that equation.

I. personally, don't see any sense in spending $3,000+ on a traditional cue, throwing away the shaft, to add a CF shaft - why would I need a Hercek, Tascarella, Scruggs, Black, SW, etc. to do that? I still play with maple just bc I want to experience everything that a cue maker intended when they built that particular cue.

All that being said, I have owned many higher end customs in my lifetime- a few that I have never owned that I may want to try in the future are Tascarella, Hercek, Barry Szamboti - you can bet that I would use the maple shafts that come with these cues. I can afford any one of these cues, or all three if I so desired, I just never pulled the plug on buying one yet- some things are best left for dreaming and future expectations🙂
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Bavafongoul said:
I didn’t buy my cues to make a profit. I didn’t design some of my cues to please anyone
other than myself. I never intended to sell my cues but if I did, I expect to recover my cost.

Mike is right. Cues are not a good investment in general but high end cues should not suffer
the fate of most used cues, namely losing money on the sale. You should recover what you
paid if the cue is still in really good condition. And some cue makers will net you a small gain
of 10-20%. The main benefit is playing with a great cue and not losing money when you sell it.
Remember that the guiding principle of rarity, scarcity & availability determine a cue’s true value.
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I sold my high end cue collection because i too do not beleive their value will increase
The reason
The people with the money that care enough to buy them
Are older and diminishing in number
There will be noone to sell them to
The younger generation really doesn’t care about Szamboti/ Scruggs /Balabushka/ Tascarella name your high end cue maker
they want cuetec /predator, etc.
Jmho
Icbw
 
bbb said:
I sold my high end cue collection because i too do not beleive their value will increase
The reason
The people with the money that care enough to buy them
Are older and diminishing in number
There will be noone to sell them to
The younger generation really doesn’t care about Szamboti/ Scruggs /Balabushka/ Tascarella name your high end cue maker
they want cuetec /predator, etc.
Jmho
Icbw
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Yes - I think that you are spot on-at least here in the U.S. - I am one of the older guys, with the money to buy, but really in the waning days of acquiring any more cues. I have sold off half my remaining collection the past 18 months. None of those sales netted me a profit - mostly just got my money back on each cue, if that.

The higher end cues that I acquired prior to 2008 are the ones that have gone up significantly in value for me. I have only one of those left now- a keeper- a Richard Black, paid $1350 in 2002 to him in person- probably a $3000 cue now.

I just bought a Palmer a few weeks ago - that may be it for me - not sure- my biggest concern, honestly is leaving my sons with a whole bunch of stuff to figure out how to liquidate some day- they don't need that burden, best to streamline your assets as time passes, let the kids enjoy the fruits, not the labor.;)
 
I think you guys are overestimating how desirable the US brands that you mention are for the rest of the world, which is a far bigger market.. The only exception being Southwest maybe. One guy at my pool hall says his cue is worth 10,000 — a Cognoscenti 1/1 I think - but people just shrug and get on with their stuff.

Worldwide I think Exceed are the most in demand and overpriced cues, selling like hot cakes when they become available.

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I do not believe that pool cues are good investments as they have such a very limited appeal. The predominate purchasers of cues are pool players -- most others lack the knowledge, or interest, to lay down serious dollars. This problem is worsened, at least in the US, by the fact that the limited number of pool players is also rapidly diminishing -- just look at the many dying pool halls we read of on these pages. Eventually, the pool cue market will evaporate to the point that no number of great pool movies could possibly revive it.

Don't be upset with me, I am merely a messenger, and I truly hope I am wrong.
 
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RDeca said:
Not much at all imo. Nobody really cares about pool accept for the people that play it.

Of course those bats and rackets aren't really worth shit. The value is artificial just like any other collectable that doesn't have precious metals and jewels in it.(and even those values are artificial....they have just been established as a trade medium for hundreds and thousands of years amongst humans)

I have several guitars that are vintage. I dont collect just play. Different ones inspire different music. Guys get hard-ons for them too. They are just guitars to me. Been offered tons of money for a few. I got mine from people that had them and didn't know what they had. They were happy with my offer and cash in hand so I kept my mouth shut.
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I have a few guitars too, selling off most of them, I hope to always play music and pool, only thing that will stop me is health.
 
RDeca said:
You sure about that? Bats and rackets bring more than a cue could ever think of. And that's without having silver gold and jewels in it. Idk about bowling ....that's a quasi pro sport just like billiards. So probably not.
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That is a different subject….a $40 bat could be worth a lot of money because of who owned or used it…but it’s still a $40 bat.
 
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bbb said:
I sold my high end cue collection because i too do not beleive their value will increase
The reason
The people with the money that care enough to buy them
Are older and diminishing in number
There will be noone to sell them to
The younger generation really doesn’t care about Szamboti/ Scruggs /Balabushka/ Tascarella name your high end cue maker
they want cuetec /predator, etc.
Jmho
Icbw
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I really wanted that Joss you sold Mike!
 
bbb said:
At the time i sold it to mike
i was in to collecting
i didnt want to sell it
i only sold it for karma
not for me
but to give some joy to a dying man
😇
Rest in peace mike 🙏
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I know firsthand he was grateful.
 
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Bavafongoul said:
I didn’t buy my cues to make a profit. I didn’t design some of my cues to please anyone
other than myself. I never intended to sell my cues but if I did, I expect to recover my cost.

Mike is right. Cues are not a good investment in general but high end cues should not suffer
the fate of most used cues, namely losing money on the sale. You should recover what you
paid if the cue is still in really good condition. And some cue makers will net you a small gain
of 10-20%. The main benefit is playing with a great cue and not losing money when you sell it.
Remember that the guiding principle of rarity, scarcity & availability determine a cue’s true value.
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Buy what YOU like. I agree with this post!

More importantly, do business ONLY with someone you like a.k.a reputable makers!

A cue is a tool not an investment.

Kd

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