Historical marquetry cues help!

[yally]

FB marketplace find of the day! All the wood butt wedges are there and one still has a special stuff wedge. There’s a stamp H.NIGHTINGALE on 3 of the wedges. No shafts. Any historical experts out there? This the real deal?

Maybe?

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[Chopdoc]

There used to be a web site dedicated to them. I don't remember the name.

I don't know enough to say much except they are probably fakes and I will take them off your hands for $50 because I am a nice guy.

 

[Cue Alchemist]

There used to be a web site dedicated to them. I don't remember the name.

I don't know enough to say much except they are probably fakes and I will take them off your hands for $50 because I am a nice guy.

And they've been chopped too, Even more sad. If there are real, any historical significance, would be lost.
Some had a mace on the other end, some had tips. Could be french, english who knows.

 

[Chopdoc]

And they've been chopped too, Even more sad. If there are real, any historical significance, would be lost.
Some had a mace on the other end, some had tips. Could be french, english who knows.

To an extent yes, originality is lost, as is historic value.

But restoration is not out of the question. They could be spliced with shafts, or even made into a two piece. I have seen very nice examples.

I did a quick search and found this two piece. LINK

 

[Cue Alchemist]

To an extent yes, originality is lost, as is historic value.

But restoration is not out of the question. They could be spliced with shafts, or even made into a two piece. I have seen very nice examples.

I did a quick search and found this two piece. LINK

With that kind of restoration would you call that? If its not completely original?

I just don't know why you would cut those. And one of them i can understand.
But Your the expert, they certainly look old.

 

[SSDiver2112]

Are you saying you bought them? Post pictures when you get the if you did.

Being chopped you could possibly make conversions if the specs are good.

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[boogieman]

Even if they were knock offs, the skill it would take to do so would still make them desirable. I'm no expert of even a novice at that type of cue but my gut feeling is they are probably legit.

Even if they were a copied design or something it's just not something anyone can do. It took real artistry/craftsmanship to make them.

 

[Chopdoc]

With that kind of restoration would you call that? If its not completely original?

I just don't know why you would cut those. And one of them i can understand.
But Your the expert, they certainly look old.

No expert.

They have already been cut. I wouldn't cut them.

I wouldn't throw them away. And personally, I would prefer not to leave them in their current state.

 

[yally]

There used to be a web site dedicated to them. I don't remember the name.

I don't know enough to say much except they are probably fakes and I will take them off your hands for $50 because I am a nice guy.

Ha! Tempting, and I'll keep it in mind.

With that kind of restoration would you call that? If its not completely original?

I just don't know why you would cut those. And one of them i can understand.
But Your the expert, they certainly look old.

No clue why these were cut. The lady I purchased from said it belong to her father. Couldn't get any other details. I do agree these could possibly be used as blanks considering how thick the lower butt is.

Are you saying you bought them? Post pictures when you get the if you did.

Being chopped you could possibly make conversions if the specs are good.

Search around here to see if there is something similar.

Antique Billiard Tables, Accessories, Collectibles and Cues Website

Antique billiard and pool tables, Victorian furniture and lighting, Brunswick, cues, racks, and much more!

www.billiard-antiques.com

I did buy them! That's my kitchen counter in the pics. Haha. The seller just let them go for a song to clean out her house.

Even if they were knock offs, the skill it would take to do so would still make them desirable. I'm no expert of even a novice at that type of cue but my gut feeling is they are probably legit.

Even if they were a copied design or something it's just not something anyone can do. It took real artistry/craftsmanship to make them.

At this point, I think they're legit. The one wedge with special stuff is definitely real. You can see the striations in the material. Also, they're not perfect, you can see some minor cracks around the zillion inlays.

No expert.

They have already been cut. I wouldn't cut them.

I wouldn't throw them away. And personally, I would prefer not to leave them in their current state.

Agreed. They'll make great decor in my billiard room, but it's tempting to have them redone. Might consider posting in the for sale section. Could be a good pickup for a cuemaker wanting to work off of essentially blanks.