I have a really nice spreadsheet for estimating building costs, let me know if you want a copy.
LOL....no but she does know about the 4 1K cues that I have purchased over the years...(6 more to go)
I don't know what pricing research Trent has done...but when I did this addition back in 97 the contractor estimated about $45 per square foot. We ended up paying less than that...When I first started researching the cost and contractors...I was told to expect between $65 - $85 per Square Ft.
We did not have any serious custom work done...so that helped keep the cost down. If I remember correctly the foundation and the roof trusses were the most costly...The roof trusses had to be certified separatly from the rest of the structure...but since this was during the house boom around here they were able to order the same exact trusses that were used to build the origonal house....and the same exact spanish tile was still available....(it is not anymore)
IF you can avoid those two costs...I would imagine you could get the cost under 10K easy...I had looked at closing in our back patio, but the roof slopes toward the back there and it would have caused gully sections where the two roofs met that may have caused rain issues...that and I would not have reached the 16x20 sized which IMO is as small as you can go if you want a 9 foot table.
I would have gone 20x20 but would not have been able to get a permit for that..
We did our addition back in 1998...I don't know what it is like in Trent's area, but with todays economy...(especially in AZ) I would think you would be able to get a job done at $45 per square ft. as long as you did not go crazy on the upgrades.
Even after watching the process...I would not attempt to do it myself...There are so many sub contracted jobs that have to be done (in the proper order)...And you have to know how to verify that they did the job correctly....and then getting the required permits is another thing...I can see clearly all the humor from the movie "The Money Pit" and how that movie came about.
DONT HATE ON MY BARN SIR! lol it serves a dirty messy purpose. and it came with my 1890s house lol
thanks for the repies guys the only code where i live is that i have to stay 15 feet from the edge of the property i have just over a quarter acre so i have plenty of room but i do like the staying under the rader part, and im also cheap lol so i think the plan it to hand a thick insulation board ceiling, insulate the walls and hang drywall, add about another 3 steel I beams to the floor for the upstairs (i got them for free originaly to build a trailer)
the downstairs for the shop is a whole nother story tho.
lots of work going to go on there.
ill try and get pics up sometime this weekend of the outside and the up stairs (if i had stairs that would help i have a ladder to the old hay loft lol try carrying slate up a ladder by your self) if i remember tonight while im out there.
I vote for the second garage. Save the deck for the grill and seating when the party transitions that way.
I'd have done the same thing (separate pool room) except my septic field is in my back yard and that's the only spot that I have available... so I put my table inside my existing garage, finished it out... and have never regretted it.
Hosted a party last weekend for ~20 of my pool-playing friends. We had a blast playing pool, ladder golf and chowing down on baby back ribs and chicken.![]()