Hoppe Hercek For Sale

sebas said:
I already owned that cue and it hits great. But i just put my money where my mouth is and bought a scrimshawed Hercek for $3200. Please find me another. I purchased the above cue the first time for an equivilant of $2950 about 1.5 to 2 years ago and I would estimate its worth in the $3100 to $3500 range. Therefore the owner is not out of line at all. It has a lighter feel to it if I remember correctly. I dont know what the weight was though. If it had been played with by Troy it would make it worth an extra $500 though.
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No, Sebas, what you did was show that the initial numbers (at least one of them) that I quoted for the value of a Hercek were dead on. If you need any further advice, just let me know. Pay attention to the sales that are going on around you, not just the ones you are participating in, and you'll learn something.
 
cuesrus said:
Scott,

If I didn't already have an ivory-inlaid Hercek, I would certainly jump on it. Also, I am in a position where I don't have to pay a premium on a Hercek - My name is up next year!!:D
I can wait... but if I was 8 years out...I would bid away...

ps. Scott, has anyone ever accused you of being cheap?:)

Rob
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No, Rob, especially not after this scrimshawed Hercek just sold for exactly the number I quoted Troy.....in a private message that you decided to post here (with somewhat erroneous information I migh add).

Lala land is probably a very nice place, but I've found it's easier on the pocket-book if I deal with reality.
 
Herceks

I have bought and sold more herceks than you can only dream of Scott. I know the market for his cues and I have had plenty of them. Let me know where I can get another ivory jointed scrimshawed Hercek made of Cocobolo, Rosewood, Ebony, or Balsa wood for that matter and I will by it. Oh and please let me know where I can get that plain one for $1800 because I would like to add it to my collection. Basically as stated before $700 to $1000 is a normal premium for his cues. I currently own a plain ebony hoppe that I know would go for at least $2700, but it is my playing cue.

I understand you were trying to get a good deal but dont insult someone's intelligence in doing so. There are plenty of people who put cues on the net and ask ridiculous prices. In this case I dont think his price was that out of line. You are entitled to your own opinion though.
 
mothballs in the wallet

runscott said:
No, Rob, especially not after this scrimshawed Hercek just sold for exactly the number I quoted Troy.....in a private message that you decided to post here (with somewhat erroneous information I migh add).

Lala land is probably a very nice place, but I've found it's easier on the pocket-book if I deal with reality.
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Scott AKA (PPPP),

Do they still so price adjustments at the Gap? I heard that some Cue dealers actually do price matching!!:eek: Just find the cue advertised for less on Ebay and they will match the price!!! Wow- right up your alley...
I also heard that at Macy's you can return stuff, no questions asked
( even used stuff ) - I thought you might like to know:)
 
sebas said:
I have bought and sold more herceks than you can only dream of Scott. I know the market for his cues and I have had plenty of them. Let me know where I can get another ivory jointed scrimshawed Hercek made of Cocobolo, Rosewood, Ebony, or Balsa wood for that matter and I will by it. Oh and please let me know where I can get that plain one for $1800 because I would like to add it to my collection. Basically as stated before $700 to $1000 is a normal premium for his cues. I currently own a plain ebony hoppe that I know would go for at least $2700, but it is my playing cue.

I understand you were trying to get a good deal but dont insult someone's intelligence in doing so. There are plenty of people who put cues on the net and ask ridiculous prices. In this case I dont think his price was that out of line. You are entitled to your own opinion though.
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No, Sebas, you realized wrong. No, I didn't even make Troy an offer, so no, I wasn't insulting anyone's intelligence. And, again 'NO', my PM's were never sent to you, were they? So I guess you really don't have a friggin clue what conversation Troy and I had about this cue?

Your intent was purely to stir up trouble, which you did - congratulations. Now I think we understand each other.

BTW - now that Troy has dropped the price, why haven't you bought it yet ?!?!?! This is very confusing given how well you and Rob know the market for Hercek cues :confused:
 
hi scottie

runscott said:
BTW - now that Troy has dropped the price, why haven't you bought it yet ?!?!?! This is very confusing given how well you and Rob know the market for Hercek cues :confused:
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Scottie, I just sold the cue...Why would I take it back for anything over $2K? ...When you are going to get me a bunch of plain ones for $1800;)
That wouldn't be very economical,would it?
BTW. I am waiting patiently for these countless offers:(

Hey aren't you the fella that gets mad at Poolsleuth for knocking all the action on the Ebay auctions? You seem to do the same stuff on the message boards with your frugal guesstimates:eek: on cue prices!!!

All the cue collectors (highendcues,cueaddicts,billiardcue,cornerstone,etc..)have their prices built in with a $700-1000 premium. And with there years of experience, I would tend to side with them.
Lets face it, they know way more than you about pricing. Please lets not argue...You are wrong!!! Be a big boy and admit it.

Step up and buy something, instead of chirping about things beyond your realm of comprehension. Leave the big boys alone. Thanks
 
vinniebabarooch said:
$2550 shipped
Thanks
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Hi Troy - glad to hear you traded that cue to Sebas. Based on his posts here, I'm sure you must have done quite well. BTW, did Rob say something? I saw his virtual lips moving, but didn't 'hear' anything.

Sebas - I apologize for bidding on your new cue. I didn't see anything here indicating that you had acquired it, so I assumed the ebay auction was Troy's. That also explains why my $2,100 bid didn't hit your reserve - probably around....$3,000?

Hey Rob - speak, boy, speak.
 
cheapskate

runscott said:
Hey Rob - speak, boy, speak.
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Crickets....crickets.....crickets......
zzzzzzzzzzz....zzzzzzzzzzzz....zzzzzzz

Hey Scottie, ( brave bid-$2100?:eek: whoa...did you sweat bullets when you clicked on the confirm bid icon?) what would have happened if you won the Hercek? Those mothballs coming out of your wallet would have been hilarious:D

Btw. Azers don't you love people that bid on things and hope to God that they DON"T WIN!!! Lol-Scottie:) you crack me up... please contribute to Scottie's little website...hehehe... funny stuff:p
 
I smell something

How is it when I sold this very cue for a posted $2300.00 in spring that it was on the board less than 3 minuites before I had my first call and it was sold and within 10 minuites 4 other collectors also wanted to buy the cue. Now how can some of you same people even try to dispute the value of the cue! Mori Tips were added and some other stuff I can't rember but the cue is definately worth more than when I sold it. How do you haggle over $100.00 on a $2500.00 cue? Paypal fees would be almost that! Shipping nevt day insured would be half that!
So after this gentleman eats $125.00 what is left? $2400.00! And that is within $100.00 of what I sold it for earlier this year!!!!!
Very reasonable price sir!
Why people post that have no intention of buying is beyond me but it reflects on the charactor of the poster!
Just sayin
Nick :)
 
nick serdula said:
How is it when I sold this very cue for a posted $2300.00 in spring that it was on the board less than 3 minuites before I had my first call and it was sold and within 10 minuites 4 other collectors also wanted to buy the cue. Now how can some of you same people even try to dispute the value of the cue! Mori Tips were added and some other stuff I can't rember but the cue is definately worth more than when I sold it. How do you haggle over $100.00 on a $2500.00 cue? Paypal fees would be almost that! Shipping nevt day insured would be half that!
So after this gentleman eats $125.00 what is left? $2400.00! And that is within $100.00 of what I sold it for earlier this year!!!!!
Very reasonable price sir!
Why people post that have no intention of buying is beyond me but it reflects on the charactor of the poster!
Just sayin
Nick :)
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No, "Just sayin" Nick, what really reflects on the character of the poster is when they post rubbish, like you just did. I PM'd the seller - do you know what 'PM' means? Well, Nick, it means 'PRIVATE MESSAGE'. That means that I DID NOT originally post here about this cue! Sebas and Rob elected to post an incorrect synopsis of a series of private messages between myself and Troy....had absolutely nothing to do with them...or YOU. But YOU manage to get involved in every single cue sale that takes place on this board. Do you intend to buy every single cue that is mentioned on this board?

I posted as a response to these two goofballs - Rob and Sebas. It amused me to respond to them. If you wanted to get involved, you really should have considered reading the other posts in the thread - then you would understand why I posted a RESPONSE to them. Do you understand yet what I'm saying? I didn't think so.

Troy and I have discussed this, and we understand each other - no problems. So, really, you shouldn't have much else to say about this, should you? I know I don't.
 
I wasn't talking in your direction

You as I have been taken advantage of. In the past the same thing happened to me and the seller was liivid so now no matter what I know I will only tell people that I talk to much of anything. A lesson learned the hard way sometimes going out of my way to be nice just gets me in a hole. Sometimes good intentions bite you in the but.
I was sayin the cues value has not gone down but it is like Bill Schick told me every collector out there it seems is no longer looking for Hoppe cues they want a cue they haven't seen before or will see again. They add to thier collections and this is the direction they are taking lately! This game is going to the $6,000.00 and above players now and they go where they want.
But for a lower end guy like me this cue was a easy sell at $2300.00 6 or 8 months ago! And it does play smooth and clean !!!!! And If I can find my old list from back then I will PM it to the seller and I have looked but what the heck I will look again. This cue I have noticed gets under the skin of the previous owners and they just have to get it back after a few months.If it sells it will probably be repurched by the seller I predict!
I have sold this cue in the past and wanted to coment on the cue that is why I posted to educate some of the posters you mentioned Runscott.
I know this cue and its value so I told what I know matter of fact so to speak and that is that!!
Nick :)
 
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Nick, I apologize. You might have noticed that most of my posts in this thread referred to the posting of PM information, information that wasn't even posted accurately. Hell, I even PM'd Troy BEFORE Laurel and Hardy started posting my PM's, and told Troy good luck and maybe I had remembered my numbers incorrectly (turned out they were correct). But that was between Troy and me, and everything was cool....then I see this crap. :rolleyes:

Troy and I have even discussed this since then, but it was via PM, so that's between him and me...unless of course he decides to share with Rob and Sebas again, but I really doubt that will happen.
 
If the cue would of been listed at $2,300 it would of sold as soon as I saw the listing. I offered $2,350 for the cue shipped and was turned down, I noticed the cue on ebay, bid on it and low and behold I met the reserve with less than my original offer.

So if the bidding stays where it is at now, Paypal and Ebay get to make money, the owner is getting much less than what was offered previously and I get a nice Hercek.

Cool!:)
 
BTW Scott

Why dont you just post your PMs so we can all be clear about them? That way we can all see if I misquoted you.
 
You have to be getting close!

TheMarsMan said:
If the cue would of been listed at $2,300 it would of sold as soon as I saw the listing. I offered $2,350 for the cue shipped and was turned down, I noticed the cue on ebay, bid on it and low and behold I met the reserve with less than my original offer.

So if the bidding stays where it is at now, Paypal and Ebay get to make money, the owner is getting much less than what was offered previously and I get a nice Hercek.

Cool!:)
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I think your offer is got to be hard to not give serious consideration to!
Must be I knew the magic number!
Nick:)
 
TheMarsMan said:
If the cue would of been listed at $2,300 it would of sold as soon as I saw the listing. I offered $2,350 for the cue shipped and was turned down, I noticed the cue on ebay, bid on it and low and behold I met the reserve with less than my original offer.

So if the bidding stays where it is at now, Paypal and Ebay get to make money, the owner is getting much less than what was offered previously and I get a nice Hercek.

Cool!:)
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MarsMan,
I did turn that offer down. But since then I traded the cue to Sebas. I think Sebas reserve is a little low considering I won 25 U.S. opens with that cue. LOL.
Good Luck with your bidding.
Take care
 
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