How about a For Sale section for gold members only?

I think this is a pretty good idea. In the past I have bought a number of very nice better cues in the fs section and used to like looking to see what was available. No more. I do believe negative comments or price knocking should never be allowed. If it as bad price or an ugly cue, it will not sell and the buyer will figure it out.

As for selling, I have only sold a couple items in this section. However, I have sold many cues simply by word of mouth. I plan to downsize my collection and contemplate where to do it. I do not need every dime out of my stuff, this is simply a hobby of interest. However, when I have tried to sell in the FS section I have found more inquiries are wanting to bottom feed...surely I can't have overpaid so badly for everything?:rolleyes:
 
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I have never had a problem with someone "knocking a cue". It is an open market. If you don't want somebody to knock the price, then post a fair price. Not saying that you have to give stuff away. But if a cue is $500, don't ask $1000 for it and be surprised when somebody calls you out on a price. Grow a pair and put your big boy pants on and don't get offended by somebody outing you. I have always called a spade a spade. I can say this with 100% certainty. More people have overpaid for things since freedom of speech was taken away from this site.
 
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First off, I want to say it is much better than it used to be with all the crazy bumping.

That being said, if you want to fix it, charge to list a cue. It can only be a few bucks but it would stop people from listing 10 cues in 10 separate listings. Let's say it is $5 bucks to list a cue here for 30 days. My guess is they would much rather combine the listing for $5 than pay $50 to list those cues. Also, if they had to repay every 30 days, it would stop them from listing with crazy prices that won't ever sell.

I've sold a bunch on here in the last few years and I'd have no problem kicking the website $5 bucks to list here...

Everyone says the cue market is dead but I don't think so at all. I've sold and buy from several dealers who seem to be moving quite a few cues. If you don't price it right and have a good listing, it won't sell.

Just my opinion...

LJ
 
Is there a reason why buyers lack the ability to peruse the for sale section beyond the first page or use the search function?
 
dawgcpa said:
First off, I want to say it is much better than it used to be with all the crazy bumping.

That being said, if you want to fix it, charge to list a cue. It can only be a few bucks but it would stop people from listing 10 cues in 10 separate listings. Let's say it is $5 bucks to list a cue here for 30 days. My guess is they would much rather combine the listing for $5 than pay $50 to list those cues. Also, if they had to repay every 30 days, it would stop them from listing with crazy prices that won't ever sell.

I've sold a bunch on here in the last few years and I'd have no problem kicking the website $5 bucks to list here...

Everyone says the cue market is dead but I don't think so at all. I've sold and buy from several dealers who seem to be moving quite a few cues. If you don't price it right and have a good listing, it won't sell.

Just my opinion...

LJ
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all I know is the current for sale forum is worthless to anyone other than dealers
 
What about Gold Membership being required period

Probably one way for the website to make money and control it is for all people selling have to be Gold Members. That would make a lot of sense to me. This way the website gets paid and they should.
 
subdude1974 said:
I have never had a problem with someone "knocking a cue". It is an open market. If you don't want somebody to knock the price, then post a fair price. Not saying that you have to give stuff away. But if a cue is $500, don't ask $1000 for it and be surprised when somebody calls you out on a price. Grow a pair and put your big boy pants on and don't get offended by somebody outing you. I have always called a spade a spade. I can say this with 100% certainty. More people have overpaid for things since freedom of speech was taken away from this site.
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Your idea of the right price may be different than mine or someome else. The market does not need influence. I see cues all the time that are not right, but it is not right to try and set the price on someone's action....unless you are willing to buy.
 
There isn't enough activity to split it up, just lump it together and require gold membership.
I think a required gold membership for selling or requesting in the wanted / for sale would eliminate a lot of nonsense.
Whatever is bothering people whether it's activity or nonsense could be easily fixed.
The gold membership would be a good way to start sorting things out around here.

With the social media influence there are way too many bad sale threads.
No pics, price, description, everything is text, which is not good if you're the one selling the cue.
Making the buyer do extra work just to see a cue is really dumb in the current cash buying environment.
Also if you want to get retail or above for a used pool cue, don't ***** when nobody
makes an offer, and after a while nobody opens your threads.
Personally I'm selling every cue I list, but I make the prices look attractive...most of the time
 
I'm new here and have posted very few times but I have to say that since joining (and even before joining) I spend most all of my time in the for sale section.

To me it seems the FS section should have libraries or at the very least subsections that are divided by "dealers" (people that sell over "x" cues, cases..etc..in "x" amount of time) and "private" sellers (people that sell under "x" cues, cases etc in "x" amount of time).

I'm retired now but was a computer programmer (by contract at home while holding my regular day job) for several years gave me the experience with sites and how they "can" be done.

Anyways, to me, (to the programmers out there) I think giving the dealers a library so they and only them could post things. That way there would be no need to bump things since when you opened their library only "their" stuff would be there. I know it may sound complicated to "some" but the code to do this is not really complex nor does it take much space (or time to write) up compared to the benefits.

Anyways...........

I'm not sure about subs laid out by price tag or not. I think everyone knows that having to many subsections is not a good thing.

Bottom line for me is:

When I am looking for higher end equipment I do not like digging through all the lower end stuff to find it.

On the other hand if I'm looking for a banger I do not like digging through several pages of high-end "custom" or "collectible" cues to find the beaters to look at.

Or.......

If I was a private seller (selling maybe 1 cue and case a month) that only sold when wanting to trade up on my current player.....I would not want to put my "1" cue in with a multitude of dealer's threads and have it buried in a matter of hours or even minutes due to some dealers posting several at once daily and me not being able to bump it back to the top..........which brings me back to the idea of sellers and "especially dealers having their own library to put things.

For those that do not know what a library is......well........what if members could see all of your current threads without seeing other threads and all without having to do a search.

Also giving dealers a library would also mean they (dealers) could delete threads after items where sold or taken off market.......deleting is just one thing.......benefits are limitless.

Anyways, sorry for the long post but there are so many things that "could" be done.:wink:
 
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JoeyInCali said:
Only Gold Members are allowed to sell but anyone can buy.
The regular FS section has so many threads that anything you start gets buried after a few hours .
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This sounds like a good idea.

I get the feeling that most of the reputable sellers would upgrade their membership to Gold (if they have not already done so), and the newer sellers probably would not want to (and the sellers that might just be out to rip someone off would really not want to upgrade to Gold so they can sell on here).

I bet that the good sellers would pay the membership cost to upgrade to Gold (if they have not already done so), if it meant that is the only way they could sell cues on this forum.

Good idea in my opinion.
 
Majic said:
I will remember not to buy from you

I don't support elitists
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Upgrading to Gold would be supporting the site, and it would also be supporting the sport of billiards, and a system like the OP is talking about would make the forum much safer for the buyers I think. It would be a win win system for everyone I think.

I also think that if all of the good sellers upgraded to Gold (so that they could sell), then maybe that money might get used for a good updates (that might be needed) to the forum, and the money might be used to get more traffic to the site (and this would in turn help the sellers sell cues). This sounds like a good idea in many ways I think.
 
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billiardthought said:
I don't understand what you are bent up about. The for sale section is very hard to sell in. Threads go to the second page and beyond very VERY quickly. The guy is trying to find a solution, and feels like the money he donated to AZB might be able to benefit him.
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Yes, and I think it would benefit the sport of pool too (along with all of the good sellers who upgrade to Gold membership).
 
subdude1974 said:
If it is a donation, then that doesn't equate to special treatment. If you want to sell the right to be part of an exclusive FS section, then by all means do it. But then if I pay for that right to sell in the section then I should also have the right to speak my mind about a cue in said section. But that is something that should be happening anyway but too many people cried about somebody calling out the sellers overpriced items or whatever. Problem is that you have several sellers that list 10-20 things at a time seperately and bump them independently. The answer is consolidation or listing limits. Max number of threads at one time. Having 1-2 threads at one time is one thing. Or the other solution is have a private party section and a dealer section and keep them separate.
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How about a system where a seller is only allowed to list up to 1 for sale thread per day? I really like the OP's idea though. The money supports the forum (and the main site), and that supports the sport I think.
 
jasonlaus said:
1 thread per user would help a great deal, although I like the Gold section idea.....probably would have the same thing going on though
Jason
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I think both would be a good idea. Not only are non Gold members not allowed to list items for sale, but sellers are only allowed to list 1 for sale thread per day (or maybe 1 for sale thread per 48 hours), with the 48 hour bump rule still in place.
 
slide13 said:
I don't think splitting the for sale section in two is a good idea. I'd rather see gold members get more frequent bumping. I'm sure the software doesn't support it, but I'd like to see the following bumps rules.

Gold Members
Bump every 48 hours or anytime with a price drop of at least 10%

Silver Members
Bump every 10 days or after 48 hours with a price drop of at least 10%
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Sounds interesting, but I think that all of the non Gold members should have to verify their identity, and a verified address should be known (of where the seller lives), and the seller should be required to accept paypal payments as an opinion. Things need to be done to prevent buyers from getting ripped off. I also wish that a section next to the title could be added for a price (a price that can be edited at any time by the seller). It would be nice to know the price of an item before going into the sellers thread (much easier to browse for prices that are within your price range, if you are in the market for a billiard product).
 
cuesblues said:
There isn't enough activity to split it up, just lump it together and require gold membership.
I think a required gold membership for selling or requesting in the wanted / for sale would eliminate a lot of nonsense.
Whatever is bothering people whether it's activity or nonsense could be easily fixed.
The gold membership would be a good way to start sorting things out around here.

With the social media influence there are way too many bad sale threads.
No pics, price, description, everything is text, which is not good if you're the one selling the cue.
Making the buyer do extra work just to see a cue is really dumb in the current cash buying environment.
Also if you want to get retail or above for a used pool cue, don't ***** when nobody
makes an offer, and after a while nobody opens your threads.
Personally I'm selling every cue I list, but I make the prices look attractive...most of the time
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They fix it and yeah wayyyy more than enough activity.... break into price ranges at least for listings.... 0-100, 101-300, 301-500, 501-999, 1000 and up.... If I have a few hundred to spend I don't want to see your 19 1600+ cues....
 
subdude1974 said:
Many have said the same thing. Once something is sold, you should be able to simply click a link that marks it sold and removes the thread. Easy, but for some reason, the powers that be seem to like people bumping threads that have been sold for years.LOL.
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Why would anyone want to bump a thread for an item that has been sold? I thought that has been taken care of anyways. I thought that now only the seller can bump their own threads.
 
mortuarymike-nv said:
We still have scammers getting into the wanted for sale section.

New members should have to post 50 posts before being allowed to post anything for sale.
That is pretty much the normal in allot of forums where the WFS section is free.

All sellers need to be required to post there return policy with the item they have posted for sale .

It would be nice on selling a cue is there was a link we could go into and fill in the info .
Brand , year, weight . balance point , condition what the cue is made of .
Type of shipping, ETA of getting the cue in the mail ., all the info needed .
For those who would like to use it.
I think sellers should get a rating on how fast they ship .

Like it or not all the sellers are in competition with every retail store and online billiard store in the world .


I would like to see a new cue section and a used cue section..

Personally I would like to post a video of the cue I wish to sale .
That way I can roll the cue and do a video and post it .
That is the best insurance the buyer and seller could have ...........
Pictures are good to but they don't show if the cue has a roll or not.

And its proof that the cue was straight before being shipped .
To me that was put a stop to some of the issues we have in here .

And it helps the buyer see all of the cue dents, scratches to. ( keeping everyone honest ) ...........
Doing a video doesn't need to be required but it for those who want to I think it would boost sales ..................

Really its a great marketing angle.
I guess because I said that they will never consider It :frown:

I think the best way to boost sales would make buying safer.





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These are all great ideas I think. I think if more members were to upgrade to Gold, then maybe the forum owner could afford to update the site to make a lot of really good changes to the for sale section.
 
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