How about get yourself a job

[philly]

You guys are bashing the wrong guy. Phillyviper is great for pool. I'm the guy that approached you in a Delaware county pool room one Sunday morning and asked you play a cheap race to seven of 9 ball before a Mezz Tour event. He didn't know me from Adam. You didn't lose that one. You took me 7-4. You play a nice game.

During the SBE my home poolroom was so crowded with out of towners and pros that a couple nights it never closed. It was phillyviper that got the action started and that was with Shane.

So his grammar isn't great but at least he has a good work ethic and he is great for the game. You will not find a better promoter for the game than him. You're bashing the wrong guy.

By the way he is a young guy that thinks old school. Good for the game.

 

[Fenwick]

Look at what youve done
got the grammer police out in riot gear

Not all of us paid attention in English class.

If you fell behind in 3rd grade for whatever reason you never recovered unless. I was lucky to have a teacher who taught English as opposed to just punching a clock in 4th or 5th grade. I caught up.

So should I correct the spelling errors in the above post even though I can totally understand the intent of his reply? I think not. That would be rude IMO.

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[uwate]

My step dad's brother was a high school drop out and ran a huge real estate company in San Jose California, owning many hotels and extensive parts of downtown San Jose.

Another family member has two PhDs and is largely a good for nothing bum.

I think its a mistake to knock people just because they are poor at writing. Common sense is usually not taught alot in school.

I actually like Philly Vipers posts, I think he adds to the AZ forum as he is providing some unfiltered perspective about how alot of people in pool feel. Granted some of it or maybe most of it is politically incorrect, but it doesn't make it wrong necessarily.

 

[mikeyfrost]

Vinny is 100% dead right on this one. The more people are allowed to get away with the more they will take. What happens is simple...once you no longer value your independence you have no problems making all your issues everyone else's. Starts a nasty cycle and it's impossible to make it out of the spin wash.

Get staked so instead of the $2k you won $800 cause expenses off the top then split(probably not 50/50 either). If you could have put yourself in you'd have enough money to stake yourself at the next few tourneys but no now you make enough to eat, pay back someone you owe, and beg/borrow some more. Never ending cycle until people really dig down and get back some of their self worth.

 

[Texas Carom Club]

the common sense to needlessly waste time capitalizing the first word of a sentence and making sure to end it with a period,and to also add in the comma when needed
just to please some folks I don't care about and will never meet nor have any impact on my life whatsoever? think not

have fun getting wound up at my intentional misuse of grammer

 

[Spimp13]

I just don't understand how pool players devote all there time to pool and believe they are so good, but yet they have zero money. They even go as far as posting threads looking for people to put the in tournaments, or money games. Am I missing something? If they play so good and pool is all they do, why do they need a stake horse or someone to put them in a tournament. .

The answers are simple (and yet not so simple).

- They lack BRM - Bank Roll Management
- They don't have a backup plan (job with consistent cash flow coming in)
- They don't understand (or care) that there is no real money in pool except with the small % of the top players that get sponsors
- They are degenerate gamblers in not just pool, but the casinos and other aspects of life (always gotta be in action and goes back to BRM)

There are some successful pros who aren't broke, but I think a lot of them fall into these categories I mentioned. I am sure there are additional ones I missed.

 

[Keith Jawahir]

Yawn. Another day on AZ. Good morning guys. One thing I've learned... if I'm working and playing, I never have time to come on here. I'm just lucky right now that I can do this from work, otherwise I'd be oblivious to the goings on of the AZbilliards forums world.

Just to gather a few opinions... I'm only 33, but my time in the Navy taught me that working 60 or more hours a week means someone is depriving themselves of their youth. Any of you old buzzards care to chime in? Obviously work is a better way to make money than playing pool, but should one work until he no longer has the health to enjoy the fruits of his labor?

On another note... I don't know why anyone would pursue pool past being an A player. Once you get to shortstop/pro level, all of a sudden you're stuck gambling and hoping that you maybe can make a few bucks from open/pro events. That's just my opinion, though. I'm open to differing opinions and being proven wrong.

 

[dnschmidt]

The Song Remains the Same (Sorry Jimmy Page)

The original poster is of course right. The bottom line is that pool is not a career and likely, with maybe a twenty-five year window between, "The Hustler" and "The Color of Money," never has been. It's simply not a profitable pastime.

The characters attracted to pool are almost always iconoclastic. The normal world does not appeal to them and they prefer not to join it. This has always been the case and is nothing new. Having shame is also not a common characteristic of the serious pool player. Getting a lock up game is nirvana whereas giving a truly even spot considered absolute madness. The game attracts and fosters gambling addicts and gambling addicts aren't particularly noted for being pillars of social responsibility.

This is just the way it is and always has been. Nothing changes and nothing ever will change. It pretty much explains everything with respect to pool and also explains why the game will never go anywhere: the demographics of the game SUCK. Golf is the game of the successful. Pool is the game of the marginal. Has been and always will be.

 

[Tramp Steamer]

My step dad's brother was a high school drop out and ran a huge real estate company in San Jose California, owning many hotels and extensive parts of downtown San Jose.

And, the first thing your step Uncle would say, if asked? "Go school. Get smart. No smart bad. School good. Jane hot!" :smile:

 

[KRJ]

Vinny is 100% dead right on this one. The more people are allowed to get away with the more they will take. What happens is simple...once you no longer value your independence you have no problems making all your issues everyone else's. Starts a nasty cycle and it's impossible to make it out of the spin wash.

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Wow...looky at Mikey getting all medieval on our arses . Those are some fine conservative principles you have adopted son, and relates directly to the "welfare" culture of society today. I knew deep down you were a closet conservative. :thumbup:

 

[btown]

I think what the OP is really trying to say is that it is none of his business what you do, and the reality is you don't effect his life in any way.

If I had to guess I would say the OP is not this perfect person but also someone with flaws that others may criticize.

However he won't be quick to point them out for us so for now lets all just bash on pool players who are living their lives with their own problems that we don't know about.

carry on

 

[jasonlaus]

1. get a job! If you play fulltime(40+ hrs/week) you shouldn't be on here begging for money, you should play well enough to make money, if you dont, GET A JOB! Cause you will never play good enough.

2. Who in their right mind would want an even game? The idea is to make money, its not about whose dick is bigger.

3. There are only going to be a few who can make a living playing - you're not one of them! Get a job.

4. I didnt graduate, or get a GED for that matter. I still made over $200,000 last year. So for all the grammar police.....
maybe it's cause we're both so stupid and uneducated that i can easily understand the OP.
OR maybe you should take a few comprehension courses? Just a thought
Jason

 

[(((Satori)))]

the common sense to needlessly waste time capitalizing the first word of a sentence and making sure to end it with a period,and to also add in the comma when needed
just to please some folks I don't care about and will never meet nor have any impact on my life whatsoever? think not

have fun getting wound up at my intentional misuse of grammer

It's just not as fun to do something like this and then tell them it was intentional!

 

[Keith Jawahir]

A random thought just occurred to me. As much as people worship money on here, I imagine there are a lot of Floyd Mayweather fans.

 

[(((Satori)))]

A random thought just occurred to me. As much as people worship money on here, I imagine there are a lot of Floyd Mayweather fans.

I know where this is going.

 

[tksix]

The original poster is of course right. The bottom line is that pool is not a career and likely, with maybe a twenty-five year window between, "The Hustler" and "The Color of Money," never has been. It's simply not a profitable pastime.

The characters attracted to pool are almost always iconoclastic. The normal world does not appeal to them and they prefer not to join it. This has always been the case and is nothing new. Having shame is also not a common characteristic of the serious pool player. Getting a lock up game is nirvana whereas giving a truly even spot considered absolute madness. The game attracts and fosters gambling addicts and gambling addicts aren't particularly noted for being pillars of social responsibility.

This is just the way it is and always has been. Nothing changes and nothing ever will change. It pretty much explains everything with respect to pool and also explains why the game will never go anywhere: the demographics of the game SUCK. Golf is the game of the successful. Pool is the game of the marginal. Has been and always will be.

One of the best posts ever!!!

Pool is one of the only games/sports that as you become better at it, the penalty is greater.

There have been many people who have created greatness from nothing in our world, except a dream or a vision. Most of these people however, really have never witnessed or benefited from their vision. They "sacrificed" themselves for the greater good of their dream. They spent their lives organizing, promoting, cultivating, and planning. Then the dream/vision grows with even greater minds and believers until it reaches something GREAT! That is the point that financial benefit becomes a reality!!

But it all starts out with "sacrifice" and thinking of the dream/vision as a WHOLE, not as an individual, or a ONE person profit stream.

And there is our problem...............pool is about "I-ME" not about US or the FUTURE. It is about the best spot, the win today, the handicap tonight etc.....

We need a leader or a group of leaders with a common goal, and they need to be humble and know that they will probably never profit from their hard work and sacrifice. But our future pool players will.

I am pretty sure every financially successful sport began this way.


Mike

 

[fastone371]

I love how OP gets blindsided when posters throw him curved ball attacking his writing skills rather than pool related stuff
OP is myopic . First of all, gambling one on one is passé . Any pool player who wants to prove he is best should be playing major tourneys or World Championships like the one in Doha right now
Sure everyone should get a job
But if your dream job is being pro pool player , how do you actually get to be great if you hold down a full time job ?
If everyone gets a job then there should only be amateur part time players no more pro pool players
That begs the question , wouldn't quality and standard of pool players suffer then?:grin:

It seems to me that the quality and standard of professional pool players already suffers because it is so difficult to earn a living at it. Its a catch 22, you need to work so you have money and your pool game suffers, or you play pool for a living and your quality of life suffers. Its hard when there is hardly any "professional" in professional pool.

 

[Tooler]

I really couldn't believe some of these replies. People keep discussing why traffic has been down on AZB, well here is a perfect example. The only thing that comes to my mind is that I am quite certain these folks would not dare to speak to someone face to face like that so why do it on a forum? A forum is suupposed to be a place to exchange ideas and information in if not a positive manner then at least respectfully, not some wanna be - ........ Philly I get exactly what your saying, keep on keeping on bro! If you were a little closer I'd check you out for some body and paint work.

LOL ....100% accurate.

It's like the cock-a-roaches waiting for the lights to go out.


To the OP, I think that a lot of the "upper level" players are looking for an easier way to make money, and maybe that's why they won't commit to a 9-5 job.
If you can make 400-500 a night, matching up, hustling, whatever, why would you want a regular job with rules.

Problem is, it just doesn't always work out that way, and sooner or later, you go bust, then you find yourself bouncing around, and, or breaking into vending machines, or knocking up every skirt within a 100mi radius and you have to skip town:wink:

 

[fastone371]

When I read the OPs opening comments I thought this thread was going to be about pool and earning a living or at least making some money playing pool. Turns out in fact that this thread appears to be about grammar, writing skills, and education levels. Talk about a surprise!!!!:shrug::shrug:

 

[alstl]

How about going to school before you get a job. Learn how to compose a letter and
SPELL.

He is from Philly. That's how they roll.