How are your eyes?

biGhuK

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I was wondering how you guys' vision was. Mine is 20/50 in the left eye and 20/70 in the right eye. I've tried forever to find contacts but none fit :/. I wondering if any of you guys have had the same problem or have bad vision and could comment on how it affected yoru game. It destroyed what little I had :[. For now, i've decided to just give up pool out or utter frustration until it can be fixed. It's just way too frustrating to know that you're alot better than what the results speak. And I can't do anything about it :[.
 
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biGhuK said:
I was wondering how you guys' vision was. Mine is 20/50 in the left eye and 20/70 in the right eye. I've tried forever to find contacts but none fit :/. .


I don't know what you mean when you say " I've tried forever to find contacts but none fit". How can contacts not fit? What is your corrected vision with glasses, or are there additional problems? Is that why you have blind man's glasses on in your picture? Wanna buy some pencils......?
 
I had a bad stigmatism too. My optometrist told me I couldnt wear contacts. I found another guy that an opthamologist helped me find. He put me on Daily wear/accuevue. Its thinner than gas permeables. I had no problems except there are some bad days when the lens will move around. But all in all its been great. Had to adjust the prescription for the distance. Right eye for the long distance and left for short. I think its called mono-vision. Dont give up!
 
I had the laser surgery about 6 or 7 years ago. My eyes were great for about 5 years and now they're starting to slip a little. I'm back to wearing glasses. I'm thinking about getting one contact for my dominant eye. I might try that daily wear/accuevue Yobagua mentioned.
 
Astigmatism is an alteration in the curvature of the eyeball and cornea, resulting in great difficulty with soft contact lenses. The old fashioned hard contacts can be used successfully in patients with astigmatism (this may be your problem), but they are a real hassle. Even if you do find some soft contacts that are fairly serviceable, you will still have that annoying temporary blurring each time you blink - glasses or refractive surgery are the way to go (but as Rick is finding out, your eyes can still change after surgery).

My vision (with correction) by glasses is between 20/10 and 20/15. It makes the long cuts much easier (hitting a baseball is a breeze). With contacts, the best I could do was 20/25 and pool was a nightmare. See a good ophthalmologist and do what he tells you. Unfortunately, you may end up with the "Karen Corr frog-lady glasses", but at least your friends will stop laughing when you cut in that long 9.
 
I had a simliar problem with contacts and just quit trying them and
stayed with glasses. That was almost 12 years ago. THen
I decided that LASIK had been proven and I looked into that. I was
a good candidate and everything went well with the surgery. I had
little to no side affects. I think I made a good decision in picking the doctor.
A lot of them just want the dollars. I found out what a good candidate was
and what a bad one was and then looked and listen to the doctors.
Some would operate on anyone. Most of those were the cheaper ones.
I went with a guy that turns away more than he takes. I knew 5 people
that had already had the surgery from him including another doctor.
He was more than double what others were charging but I really liked
his "program" for doing it. He and other doctors would examine me the same
day and would look at each others findings to make sure everything was
okay.
I didnt have it done for pool purposes and actually my vision is a little
worse pool wise than with glasses. I see 20/10 or 20/15 with my left eye
but only 20/25 or 20/30 with my right. Not anything bad but I was 20/20
with glasses. I just wish I had the20/10 in my right. They said they could go back and tweak it but I said no and they reccommend not doing it either.
Only time I notice it is when I close my left eye or every now and then
with shots on a pool table.
I think LASIK worked for me but I put in the time to check it out and
especially the person that would be doing the operation.
On a side note--- Its still one of the most amazing things I have been a part of doing. I went in one day with glasses not able to even drive with out them and the following day I saw pretty good and could drive myself to the doc. Two days later I was seeing like a hawk. The vision settled at my current specs but for about a week I could see very very clearly.
Pool wise I think I cut balls a little better now and there is no glare from
using the glasses.
If you take a look into corrective surgery spend a little extra time on homework.
 
Mine is bad and worse. I wear glasses but the balls are still a bit out of focus. Get a slight double image on the edge, makes it tough for thin cuts. But, I play for enjoyment not for a living. :)
 
I gave up pool almost 30 yrs ago because (among other things) I started needing glasses and couldn't see long shots clearly. I hate wearing glasses and was just uncomfortable wearing them while playing. About 3 yrs ago I had LASIK on my right, dominant eye to correct for distance. Didn't have it on my left eye so that I could continue reading without glasses. I picked up a cue for the first time about 2 yrs ago and was amazed at how clearly I could see the balls. Began shooting a little, bought a table, and am now playing every day and loving it. I'm 49, and I expect my vision will deteriorate again before long, and I'll need to deal with it with another surgery, glasses, or contacts. I'm not giving up pool again!
 
frankncali said:
If you take a look into corrective surgery spend a little extra time on homework.

BiGhuk,
Listen to Frankncali, its good advice (with one caveat - spend a LOT of extra time on homework) There are a lot of factors to consider before entering into the surgery. My wife was one of the unlucky ones who had totally blurred vision after the surgery (though it did finally resolve after 2-3 months without further surgery) - even with one of the top doctors there are such things as bad results. Of interest though, Jeanette Lee had refractive surgery and seems to play just fine.
 
I've worn glasses for many yrs before I started playing pool. (11 yrs ago) I now have to wear trifocals but I don't wear them while playing pool. Needless to say dark balls a long distance away I can't really see the edges. My optometrist has given me a prescription for a distance of 14'. Some posters here gave me a tel # of Howard Vickery who wears really big frames and I am ordering a pair. I would try the Lasik surgery but my optometrist says I am really not a good candidate because of my age (68) and other potential problems. However, I would never think of giving up pool simply because I am not playing up to my potential. My potential is what it is and I am not going to get younger but it does not mean that I am going to bemoan my situation. Therr are an infinite # of things to learn about the game and each day that I learn something new or finally understand the proper speed to execute a shot I have been trying to learn I am satisfied!! And each month my game is elevated--maybe only a small amount--but still better than it was the previous month. This is satisfaction and I am looking forward to being able to play even better with the glasses. If you are a canidate for Lasik choose the best and go for it!
 
I don't see sh*t without glasses, I have -6 diopter in both eyes. I have considered contacts, but have heard different opinions how they react with smokey atmosphere. Maybe this summer will have a go at them, because my glasses are quite small in size and if I wanted to get my chin on the cue, I'd break my neck if wanted to see through the glasses :) Though, people say that sometimes I view over the glasses but I dunno, seems impossible to make any balls with my bad eyesight. Oh, and I've had glasses for... umm, about 15-20 years. I'm 27.

About contact lenses, I've heard that Asian people have a type of an eyelid that doesn't "support" contact lenses. So, many Asian people cannot wear contacts... Anyone heard the same thing ? No racial issues here...
 
I'm lucky anough to say that I got 20/20 vision. lol too bad i suck. But my vision would probablly go worse as i get olser since it runs in my faimly.
 
Mikko I am an Asian and have been wearing contacts FLUENTLY for over 20 years. Where do these things start?
 
get lenses

I have bad vision without contact lenses - left +3.50, right +2.50, but is 20/20 whhen I put my lenses on. I don't know where do you live, but am sure you can get a decent eye exam and get yourself good lenses! :rolleyes: / -:/
 
mjantti said:
I don't see sh*t without glasses, I have -6 diopter in both eyes. I have considered contacts, but have heard different opinions how they react with smokey atmosphere.

About contact lenses, I've heard that Asian people have a type of an eyelid that doesn't "support" contact lenses. So, many Asian people cannot wear contacts... Anyone heard the same thing ? No racial issues here...


Huh?? I'm glad YOU said that about the eyelids and not a caucasian, it could have been very easily twisted into political incorrectness and claimed as a racial issue. -6 isn't all that terrible and contacts will have you seeing like a hawk. Some people have smokey atmosphere problems and others don't. Go ahead and spring for them. But on the eyelid issue...couldn't you get elliptically shaped contacts? :) (Couldn't help it Mikko, the devil made me do it)
 
Hi all,

This is only my second post (my first one disappeared somewhere before I could post it) so please bear with me. I'm 50 years old and have worn glasses for 40 years and played pool just as long.

My eye problems are: astigmatism in both eyes, floaters, spots, dry eyes, one eye looks higher than the other which causes double vision, nearsightedness, for the last 5 years I've needed reading glasses, slight glaucoma in one eye, and I think that's all---that's enough I'd say.

Anyway, because of glare from the pool light on the inside of my glasses, I thought I'd give contacts a try about 5 years ago. Well, it's been quite a ride determining what works and what doesn't.

The first problem I forced myself to overcome was double vision due to one eye looking higher than the other. This took almost a year. An eye specialist for this problem (he's a ping-pong player and really took an interest in my pool playing--he spent 3 hours with me!) told me that doing the mono-vision thing ( that yobogua does) wouldn't work for pool, as long cut shots would be impossible to see properly. So I quit that strategy and am gald I did. He told me that billiards was probably the best exercise I could do to correct this problem, but that it would probably return to me when i reach 65 or so---we'll see (get it?--we'll SEE---somebody stop me!).

The second problem was finding the right nearsightedness correction.
I, too, have an opthamologist, but he doesn't understand that I want to see the pool table and don't really care about 20/20 vision. After all, I spend probably 95% of my time indoors and rarely need to see eagles on the horizon. I originally wanted lasik, but he is verrrry conservative (that's good, btw) and won't do my eyes (yet, anyway). So his contact lady and I have been trying various daily contacts to find my best depth of field for pool.

My left eye is supposed to be -5.75and the right is supposed to be -5.25 (for 20/20 vision). I've been wearing -4.25 in the left and -3.75 in the right, and this provides clear vision from 2 to about 12 feet---perfect for pool. It's just good enough for driving, but I may get glasses to make up the difference for those tired, late night drives. The added benefit here is I rarely need reading glasses anymore---whoopee!

I also have settled on a .75 astigmatism correction in both eyes. It isn't perfect but my brain has overcome the fact that my left eyes sees my cue as curved to the left and my right eye sees my cue as curved slighty to the right. When I first played this way, I thought my cue had become warped. This took maybe 6 months to overcome.

He also put in punctal plugs that "dam up" two of the four drains in my eyes. This I would recommend to anyone who hangs in smoky bars. It's painless and takes about 10 seconds to put in. They're like teeny tiny funnel shaped plastic plugs that are left in my eyes forever (or until the doc wants they out). I still sometimes use drops, but rarely anymore.

I sometimes use a special herb to keep the glaucoma pressure down (went from the high 20's to the high teens). I can't tell you the herb, but you can probably figure it out.

For the spots and floaters (imagine looking through a moving window screen), I just sometimes have to shake my head to move them out of my line of sight.

My point is basically the same as Gerald's: My eyes are what they are, but my mind belongs to me and I have complete control over it. This is how I beat those hawk-eyed punksters. They can see better than I; I can think better than they.

Thanks for reading and excuse me if this post is redundant.

Jeff Livingston
 
I'd wanted laser correction for years and heard about the new improvements recently in the technology, so researched and found the best specialist in my area and had it done (Lasix) three months ago. I paid a premium price but have a "lifetime guarantee" if any future adjustments need to be made. This doc refuses to do many people and will only perform the procedure on those who fit the profile for good outcomes, and because of his guarantee for future procedures. He works with the FDA on research and development and teaches other docs in the methods. I had worn glasses since age 10, the last five years with progressive lenses that drove me nuts and were terrible for my game. Anyway, I now have 20-15 vision and can see great, beyone arm length. I didn't have any problems at all with the surgery. None. I could see great within 24 hours. I still need reading glasses (age-appropriate vision, as the doc puts it), but did not want to compromise either near or far vision not to need any glasses at all. It has really helped my flyfishing, photography and pool game and I'm really glad I did it.
rayjay
 
chefjeff said:
The first problem I forced myself to overcome was double vision due to one eye looking higher than the other. This took almost a year. An eye specialist for this problem (he's a ping-pong player and really took an interest in my pool playing--he spent 3 hours with me!) told me that doing the mono-vision thing ( that yobogua does) wouldn't work for pool, as long cut shots would be impossible to see properly. So I quit that strategy and am gald I did. He told me that billiards was probably the best exercise I could do to correct this problem, but that it would probably return to me when i reach 65 or so---we'll see (get it?--we'll SEE---somebody stop me!).

I'm doing the monovision thing also. Had Lasik on my right eye to see at a distance and continue to use my left eye unaided to read. I see table-length cut shots crystal clear. I thought my left eye, through which I can't see at a distance worth a damn, would fuzz it up, but it doesn't. The brain sorts it all out.
 
From what i remember, a few years ago, without contacts or glasses, i was at 20/120 (right eye) and 20/170 (left eye) but that was a few years ago, and i believe they are worse now, and i don't even ask anymore... It's just depressing lol... I've got really bad astigmatism in both eyes, and my contacts are the aspheric thingys, they are supposed to have two powers to them, and are supposed to be "weighted" so they stay the same way every time, i don't go blurry often though, so they must work...

Thanks,

Jon
 
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I am having the lasix thing this thursday. I am somewhat farsighted but it is the astigmatism that is the real pain. I doubt it will do much for my pool game because I have not played long, but am looking forward to having everything not look blurry and fuzzy.

Laura
 
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