actually if it is frozen it must go to another rail or the cue ball must go to a rail after contact with the object ball the ob can not go back to the same rail.
How do I get out of this?
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actually if it is frozen it must go to another rail or the cue ball must go to a rail after contact with the object ball the ob can not go back to the same rail.
Actually, the easiest safe is to half hit the 9, double the rail and cornerhook the cueball while leaving the 9 on the head spot.
I was practicing this, and for me what works best is try to bank it short to the middle pocket with top inside english. If I fail (90% of the time) the OB is between 1st and 2nd diamond in the bottom rail and CB 1 foot away the head rail.
Why CJ Wiley doesn´t appear and enlighten us?:thumbup:
Why CJ Wiley doesn´t appear and enlighten us?:thumbup:
No offense, but if my best safety option on the 9-ball involves shooting a 9' jacked straight the f' up draw shot, I'm going for the win every time. :wink:
Aaron
Kick it in, if u miss your opponent is not gaurranteed a shot that ball plays big. Playing safe absolutely no chance of winning. I say go for the money. the pool God will reward you for being aggressive . there's no good safe and safe is too difficult might as well shoot it.
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I'm pretty sure this is the prime time to perform a RAM shot.
If I decided to go for this shot, here is what I'd try. The one rail kick would probably be the highest percentage (offensive) shot for me, and here is how to line it up.
The ghostball next to the 9 is where you want to make contact. First line up where to hit the rail if the CB were directly across from the target (the ghostball next to the CB). That would be the black line in the diagram. This might be slightly different table to table, but aiming at the center of the middle pocket, where a diamond on the rail would be if a pocket were not present, will be very close when shooting high on the CB. Look through that line and find the spot on the wall several feet away from the table. Now go back over the CB and find the line through that same spot on the wall (blue line). So long as you can hit the side rail and not the pocket opening, you should be real close to the kick up the short rail into the corner pocket. I just tried this several times and was able to make contact and move the 9 ball up the rail, close or into the pocket. You might hit it with speed to move the 9 ball close to starting position if you miss.
[edit] I didn't draw the CB path to the target on the black line, but instead the geometric path. Oops on my part. But the process is there.
The ghostball next to the 9 is where you want to make contact. First line up where to hit the rail if the CB were directly across from the target (the ghostball next to the CB). That would be the black line in the diagram. This might be slightly different table to table, but aiming at the center of the middle pocket, where a diamond on the rail would be if a pocket were not present, will be very close when shooting high on the CB. Look through that line and find the spot on the wall several feet away from the table. Now go back over the CB and find the line through that same spot on the wall (blue line). So long as you can hit the side rail and not the pocket opening, you should be real close to the kick up the short rail into the corner pocket. I just tried this several times and was able to make contact and move the 9 ball up the rail, close or into the pocket. You might hit it with speed to move the 9 ball close to starting position if you miss.
[edit] I didn't draw the CB path to the target on the black line, but instead the geometric path. Oops on my part. But the process is there.
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Or how about just raking the balls. You're toast 90% of the time if you're going on offense without a plan B. The balls are FROZEN people. The bank to the back left corner is off. Double kiss. If you're not John Brumback, banking back to the upper corner is WHAT %???
Try to take an 80% loss position to a 60%. JMHO
And where the F is CJ when you need him? TOD? (Touch of Diss-appearance?)
Try to take an 80% loss position to a 60%. JMHO
And where the F is CJ when you need him? TOD? (Touch of Diss-appearance?)
Busty set up this similar shot at an expo.
But we were able to hit low on the cue ball, sending the 9-ball towards the pocket to the right of the cue ball, then sending the cue ball around 4-5 rails back towards the nine. That way even if you miss, you have a good chance at leaving the guy long and with a similar to shot to what you had.
But we were able to hit low on the cue ball, sending the 9-ball towards the pocket to the right of the cue ball, then sending the cue ball around 4-5 rails back towards the nine. That way even if you miss, you have a good chance at leaving the guy long and with a similar to shot to what you had.
If I decided to go for this shot, here is what I'd try. The one rail kick would probably be the highest percentage (offensive) shot for me, and here is how to line it up.
The ghostball next to the 9 is where you want to make contact. First line up where to hit the rail if the CB were directly across from the target (the ghostball next to the CB). That would be the black line in the diagram. This might be slightly different table to table, but aiming at the center of the middle pocket, where a diamond on the rail would be if a pocket were not present, will be very close when shooting high on the CB. Look through that line and find the spot on the wall several feet away from the table. Now go back over the CB and find the line through that same spot on the wall (blue line). So long as you can hit the side rail and not the pocket opening, you should be real close to the kick up the short rail into the corner pocket. I just tried this several times and was able to make contact and move the 9 ball up the rail, close or into the pocket. You might hit it with speed to move the 9 ball close to starting position if you miss.
[edit] I didn't draw the CB path to the target on the black line, but instead the geometric path. Oops on my part. But the process is there.
Seriously, I would strongly advise not trying to kick this in. If it were call-shot, I can see the logic there but in standard 9-ball, your chances of winning just went down about two notches simply because not hitting the 9ball is a real possibility.
Seriously, if I'm sitting in the chair, almost all of my opponent's choices involving hitting the 9 directly leave me thinking, "Well, I'm probably getting back to the table. I hope I have a good shot." If I see him kicking, I'm thinking there's a very good chance I'm getting BIH. I don't care how good a kicker you are, if I see you kicking at this, I'm going to be so relieved.
I would agree if you were not confident to hit the 9 ball. This takes practice. Even if you are off by a little you should still make contact. If you might be off by a 1/2 ball or more, don't even try it. The information above arms you with the correct aim line to the target. From there your execution consistency will be a big factor.
Another offensive option, find the spot that kicks directly into the 9 (same procedure, but aim for full hit). Stop the CB, send 9 up to the other end. A full ball target should be pretty consistent for the one-railer (using a geometric system and not just guessing).
Lol, okay. You keep preaching this and I'll keep winning. Deal?
If you want to take bets on setting up this shot and seeing if I can kick and hit the 9 ball say 10 for 10, I'm in :thumbup:
I'm at the poolroom now. Where are you? Oh wait, this is the Internet. See, IRL, you only get ONE shot. When you get 10, there's a learning curve.
At the pool room? ok put the phone away and go play some pool. :grin:
You're right about the double kiss. The bank back uptable to the other pocket is on.
Chance to make it = ~15%, and add on the chance you miss it but slop it in another pocket and you're up to 20%, and add on the chance you miss it but leave your opponent without a reasonable shot and precious few safety options because there's only one ball on the table and despite what players with more imagination than real life experience will tell you there are pretty much no good safeties when there's one ball on the table, and I really don't hate my chances here.
-Andrew