how do you get out of a slump???

blue-ss-camaro

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went to a tourny last night(its was 8 ball race to 3, single elimation) I got up 2-0 and went into i dont care mode. meaning I stopped play my hardest.seemed like i did that the night before also when i was playing race to 5 for 5(all the action you can get around here) and i ended up loseing 10 cause he quit me. any way I was just wondering how you guys get out of that kinda mode.and always go for the gusto???? thanks in advance
 
Actually, going into "I Don't Care Mode" isn't really what most of us think of when the word slump is mentioned. A slump usually means poor results in spite of sufficient effort, so your thread title is poorly chosen.

Your problem, at least as you describe it, is a matter of insufficient commitment to what you're doing at the table.

My advice is practicing taking each and every decision and every single shot seriously. Continuity of effort is something you CAN teach yourself, and the right practice habits are a bit part of the equation.

You'll have to be hard on yourself, because going through the motions isn't the route to success at or away from the glorious green felt.
 
blue-ss-camaro said:
went to a tourny last night(its was 8 ball race to 3, single elimation) I got up 2-0 and went into i dont care mode. meaning I stopped play my hardest.seemed like i did that the night before also when i was playing race to 5 for 5(all the action you can get around here) and i ended up loseing 10 cause he quit me. any way I was just wondering how you guys get out of that kinda mode.and always go for the gusto???? thanks in advance

Let me take a shot in the dark here and suggest that your subconsiously just trying to be socially exceptable when you drop out. The dollar amount isn't all important and being a good loser is socially OK. It's a complex state of mind but one easily gotten used to. When you discover that it is OK to be a good winner your slump will end.
 
There are a couple ways to deal with what you are talking about.

One way is to go into the toughest bar you can find, pick the biggest meanest looking guy, and play him for $20 without any money in your pocket. Then you will care if you win or lose :D

The second, and much safer way to go, is to learn to enjoy the simple shots in pool. If the only thing you enjoy about playing pool is making the tough shots or tough outs then you will lose interest in the simple shots and easy outs. And good, consistent pool is about being able to perform the routine shots more often than the other guy (or girl).

So dont play against your opponent skill, or the set score, play to get all the enjoyment out of the game that you can. And that comes with performing every shot the best that you can.
 
u might want to read that book "pleasures of small motions"......its not about fundamentals or position play or anyting....its all about the mental aspect. I used to have problems like that.......problems "finishing". But now I dont even think about it, im more intuned to the game itself.....why im playing the game? Cuz its fun. My motivation each rack is to run the rack, its like solving a big puzzle, and thats fun. The money, the win, what the guys will think if i win or if i lose.......ive learned to put all that out of my head...and it makes a huge difference.
 
How much time have you been spending at the table? If it's a lot, you might just be burnt out. If this is the case, try taking a pool vacation. When you come back to it, don't dive into the deep end with ten hours a day of pool.
 
This works every time...

blue-ss-camaro said:
went to a tourny last night(its was 8 ball race to 3, single elimation) I got up 2-0 and went into i dont care mode. meaning I stopped play my hardest.seemed like i did that the night before also when i was playing race to 5 for 5(all the action you can get around here) and i ended up loseing 10 cause he quit me. any way I was just wondering how you guys get out of that kinda mode.and always go for the gusto???? thanks in advance

Raise the bet to the point that if you lose - you don't eat.

TY & GL
 
Practice, practice and then I practice some more. I love practicing, it's like therapy for me. When I'm playing someone competetively and I start playing bad, I immediately try to figure out what I'm doing wrong and it's usually something I can identify readily. I have a mental list of things that I need to do to play at my peak performance and I do a checklist of them. I find that when the pressure is the greatest, my shooting arm or my grip starts to tighten up and I mentally force myself to loosen them both and that helps a lot!
 
The "I don't care" state of mind happens to alot of players quite often. I've always made it a point to stop playing when I get like that while I practice. All it does is create bad habits. Play when you really want to play, if you just play because you're bored, you might even get more bored and just play yourself into a slump.
 
Stop focusing on the fact that you just missed a shot or a bunch of shots... Focus on the now.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Yes, I agree. Obviously, there isn't enough money involved!


I get in those moods also when playing $5 a game!! I get up then I could care less if I win. What I do is I just play someone I dont really like that much and beat the crap outta them at $5 a game of course they usually never play you again and you usually only win about $40 or so bucks before they quit but if they are only going to play 5 a game then you werent going to win any serious money any ways so it dont really matter! Bottome line JACK IT UP!!!
 
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Jude Rosenstock said:
Yes, I agree. Obviously, there isn't enough money involved!

One of the best money players I've ever seen impressed me because whether he was playing for $2 a game or $2,000 a game he played with the same intensity. There is a lesson there!
 
Rickw said:
One of the best money players I've ever seen impressed me because whether he was playing for $2 a game or $2,000 a game he played with the same intensity. There is a lesson there!


I seen a guy was the best $2-5 a game player no one could beat him no one!! I mean he was lights out but if you jacked it up to $10 or more he couldnt play a lick! he had to many mouths to feed and the money got to him!
 
Lukeinva,

Boy, I've seen a few players like that too! Talent galore and yet when the pressure is on, they can't make a ball! Some people thrive on pressure and some just can't handle it.
 
Rickw said:
Lukeinva,

Boy, I've seen a few players like that too! Talent galore and yet when the pressure is on, they can't make a ball! Some people thrive on pressure and some just can't handle it.


Yeah I remember my first $200 a set in 1 pocket I needed one damn ball to win. it was a half decent shot and I rattled it I knew if I missed the other guy would run and he did!! I lost !!! damn ball!! But during that hole time I was shooting I wasnt even thinking of missing I was just thinking about my money I was going to win!! NOW I KNOW BETTER!! Dont count your chickens before they hatch!! DAMN BALL!!!
 
Slumps!

lukeinva said:
Yeah I remember my first $200 a set in 1 pocket I needed one damn ball to win. it was a half decent shot and I rattled it I knew if I missed the other guy would run and he did!! I lost !!! damn ball!! But during that hole time I was shooting I wasnt even thinking of missing I was just thinking about my money I was going to win!! NOW I KNOW BETTER!! Dont count your chickens before they hatch!! DAMN BALL!!!
:D link to post on slumps! ;-) :)
 
Sometimes when something bothers you, may not even be aware of what it is, it is difficult to focus. Generally, you can tell this is the case when you find yourself feeling on-the-edge and it feels like everything is annoying.

This is what I do, it may help;

When I have a problem with focus in golf and negative feelings begin to step in, I try to confuse my negative conscious. This is done by developing a higher level of focus and concentration, and even to the point that I get angry (internal, not external). I work on overwhelming the negatives and this leads to even stronger positives. One thing I DO NOT do is pay attention to the intricacies of my swing, stance or anything that creates a focus on the physical movements involving the muscles. Creating a focus on small details of muscle movement will result in disaster as this makes you become even more self-conscious which is what you do not need. The focus is to be on the external stuff, where I want to place the ball in the fairway or what part of the cup I'm hitting to and to be even more precise than usual.

Again this works very well for me; 1. develop a more externalized focus to the resulting expectations 2. increase the level of exactness in my target area. 3. Internal anger to be perfect. In golf, many times, I end up shooting better than my average when I use this system even after a few bad starting holes.
 
Below is a book excerpt where I examine how to combat slumps by examining what to practice. It has been edited from its original text.

Excerpt from The Growling Point

Hitting The Wall

Many of us find that we can only progress so far until we reach a plateau. I call this Hitting The Wall. Many players find that they are unable to find the drive, or the motivation that once propelled them to play their very best. They lose the positive emotions as they spiral deeper into a pit of negativity. This is what causes slumps.

Slumps are caused by one of two things

1) Overload
2) Laziness

More times than not, with pool players it is caused by overload. We tend to "overwork" ourselves and concentrate on quantity of practice, rather than quality. As a student of the game, your job is to improve, master, and remember what you've accomplished. And, as much as possible, to relax and enjoy the process. Slumps interfere with that.

Most players fail in one of two very basic ways:

1) They practice in a way that fails to produce improvement.

2) Although they practice carefully and produce improvements, but they fail to practice in a way that ensures a lasting memory what they've learned.

Even if you practice in a manner that fosters improvement, if your style of practice fails to create a strong, lasting memory, you'll gain very little progress. Also, each day it will feel like you're starting over. This will lead to frustration, which will combine itself with sensory overload during competition.


This causes some players to avoid practicing altogether. They get frustrated when their practice doesn't bring about instantaneous results, and they abandon practice altogether. They trade in practice for gambling, which can provide instant results with cash, or instant results by handing over your cash. Other players try to attain experience by playing players of greater skill, yet they completely avoid practice. Both of those avoidance techniques will only lead to further disappointments and ultimate frustration.

So what if you play great one day, and then you play like crap the next? It's rare that you pick up right where you left off the day before. This is especially true for beginners. It may take five to twenty minutes to get yourself warmed up and back in touch with yesterday's best.

With other types of tasks, like building a stone path, you continue building Wednesday right where you finished on Tuesday. But not with pool.

There will come days when you're most diligent efforts will fail to elevate you to the level of yesterday's accomplishments. Or perhaps you'll reach yesterday's level, but not until your practice is nearly over. And it's OK. Don't let it get to you. Your achievements won't always follow a straight line. And you're improvements won't always come at a steady rate.

So simply strive to improve from your starting point — from your baseline.

While practicing, remember to Divide & Conquer!!! This means that you should break tasks and obstacles into small manageable pieces. It's much like eating a meal. If you take it one bite at a time, you have no problems. If I told you to shove the entire plate of food into your mouth at one time, you'll have major problems. It's the same thing with pool.

Work on any part of your game that needs improvement (such as you break, bank shots, position pattarns, drills), but make sure that you make some chart-able progress, and that you do so quickly. If you don't see yourself making progress, divide the task or skill in half, and work on the smaller parts of it. Continue dividing the task until you reach a size where you can progress quickly. By breaking the task down into sections, you can also more clearly see where you are making your mistakes. This can be the most intelligent and effective way to organize and chart your progress.

Don't obsess on trying to "force" improvement. If you practice your break for 2 hours straight and see nothing positive coming of it, STOP. If you continue, you will only overload your subconscious with seeing the negative results. Shift away from that part of your practice for about 20-30 minutes, and once you have calmed down, return. You can even stop until the next day. Move on to something that will generate more positive results. Return to practicing the break and once you see a positive result, STOP again. This is very important. You will leave practice on a positive note. This approach helps keep confusion and frustration at bay. And it allows your memory to absorb the positive experience subconsciously. This is how you can learn more without additional work — much like studying and “sleeping on it.”

Also, alternate between learning and reviewing. Start your practice with something familiar, or something you can accomplish easily. Then try something new and more challenging. Continue alternating between learning new skills and reviewing. In other words, rest one part of your brain while a different part works.

Always end your practices with a quick review over everything you have worked on for that day. Remember that every player is different, so it is up to you to find practice secrets of your own, and find out what works best for you. By following the examples set down in this part of the book, you will avoid hitting the wall, getting into a slump, resting on a plateau, or falling into a rut. Good Luck!
 
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