had this layout after the break today. just wondering how you posters would have played this? obviously the shot on the 1-Ball to get to the 2-Ball was the problem.
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How Do You Handle This First Shot?
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DrCue'sProtege said:
DON'T GO FOR TOO MUCH HERE. YOU ARE IN CONTROL UNLESS YOU DO SOMETHING WILD, SO TAKE WHAT THE TABLE IS GIVING YOU.
Looks like a natural to me...
According to the diagram it looks easy enough to pocket the 1-ball in the top left corner pocket with low right english...hit the long rail between the 6 and 8...and up for the 2 in the top right pocket...???
You still have other shots to make...like getting from the 4 to the 5...but it all looks pretty natural to me...
Mike
According to the diagram it looks easy enough to pocket the 1-ball in the top left corner pocket with low right english...hit the long rail between the 6 and 8...and up for the 2 in the top right pocket...???
You still have other shots to make...like getting from the 4 to the 5...but it all looks pretty natural to me...
Mike
I'm not sure which is easier. The black path is longer and needs more power, but the red path is tighter and needs more finesse. I like the black path for reliability and the red path for fun.sjm said:
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Around the 5 or between the 5 and 9?olauzon said:
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No doubt I'm doing this, slightly low right stun. The point is, you have a chance to get in line right away. It's a pretty standard shot. As long as I am certain I can pass the 8, then I wouldn't even consider anything else.
TATE said:
i considered this option, but i felt the angle was too steep for this option. i didnt think i could dig into the cue ball enough to pull it over onto the long rail and out for position on the 2-Ball.
as far as the other shot that most posters favor, how do you hit it? its NOT a natural angle as that would pretty much leave you close to a scratch in the side pocket. i considered that shot too. assume you would want to hit this shot about 3 o'clock?
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It takes very little, if any, sidespin. If you hit the CB a little lower than "natural roll" so it hits a little closer to the 8 ball on the first rail, the CB picks up enough right spin from the OB to get across the side pocket. As I said, this shot takes more finess than the other one - it's probably easier to put too much sidespin on than too little.
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The fundamental problem with the draw-option diagram is that it's simply not showing what the true path of the cueball will look like. Below is a slightly more accurate representation of the potential pitfalls the draw path will have to avoid:
I'm not saying I would or wouldn't do this. It's very difficult to say on a diagram but I will say this - I have my concerns.
I'm not saying I would or wouldn't do this. It's very difficult to say on a diagram but I will say this - I have my concerns.
Jude Rosenstock said:
very well put Jude. my thoughts exactly. perhaps the diagram doesnt give a good visual, but i didnt like trying to "Dig" into the cue ball for a draw shot here.
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My drawing of the path is oversimplified - these are definite concerns worth pointing out. Good catch, Jude.Jude Rosenstock said:
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Patrick Johnson said:
Well, let me add, the rewards might be worth the risk. Getting close to the 2-ball is going to make position on the 3 & 4 so much easier which is necessary to get position on the 5. If I can stun past the 8-ball (which does not look possible), I'm def going to try to get close. I don't thnk simply crossing the width of the table (as others have suggested) will be good enough to run out most of the time. It makes the shot on the 2-ball VERY challenging.
Jude Rosenstock said:
I set up the table last night and stunned past the 8, a half tip low and a half tip right - but the precise placement of the balls is what is going to determine if this is possible. The cueball came into the center diamond past the 2.
The cue table diagram versus a real table can look quite a bit different.
Chris
DrCue'sProtege said:
I'd try for the red line in this diagram, using a fairly firm stroke just above center like a run-through shot, with a tiny hair of right english, like in the diagram here. I guess on a clock it comes out to about 2:00, but pretty close to the center of the ball.
-Andrew