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3RAILKICK

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most cut shots about 2 - 3 diamonds up the rail? Those that are close to center to edge/approx 30 degrees. I know it is situational-distance of cb away/pocket size/shelf depth etc., but what is your 'comfort' shot?

Do you roll it?/with top/with outside helping english?/stun-stop/stun-stop w/a little outside?

I ask because I watched a fair amount of DCC 10ball and 9ball recently.

The 'bread and butter' shot approach I saw by several top guys/one in particular-was to hit that sliding draw-that turns over just at contact. It looked like the shot was hit firm or crisp-but yielded a small amount of travel after striking the ob. It acted much like stun would if hit from a shorter distance. Often there was some side on the cb as well to help the ob to the pocket.

Anybody else notice this. Or is this just a standard shot for the best players.

I don't have this shot. Do you have to be playing alot to shoot this well?

Thanks for your time

3railkick

perhaps the question s/be in 'ask the instructor'. But I'm looking more for feedback from AZB'ers who play. I have no doubt this is taught in some of several pool school curriculums.
 
I know the stroke you are talking about, and I use it a lot. I developed it while playing a lot of 14.1, but it comes in handy everywhere.

I don't see everyone using it, but the experienced guys all do.
 
an another arrow in your quiver

You don't have to be a pro to use it. Just be around long enough to identify
it as a particular shot. Short cut down the rail, you want to hold the cue as much as possible coming off the rail. Also used down the rail on tight pockets to keep OB from rattleing. Stun/stop with a little outside is a good description. Almost a curve. You have to adjust aiming point because the effort here is to throw (move) the OB with the english , not with speed, transferring the energy to the OB and killing the CB of the rail. We used to call it a bunt. I'm a c player and I use it a lot, so it just takes practice. The same shot principle can be used in the middle of the table (particularly shooting to a side pocket) where your a little off angle to stop the CB but don't want it to roll. Great shot.
You'll use it all the time.
 
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that is a bread and butter shot :)

That is a great shot to know. Earl shoots a super sweet one on the color of money match against effren. I always called that shot the drag draw, you put some draw on the ball and the draw sputters out just b/f contact and loses all its energy, and your dead on how you said its similar to a stun shot. I usually put just a touch of outside spin on the CB if I need to keep the CB as close to the rail as possible.

On a little shallower angle w/ the OB just off the rail I'll throw a little inside draw on the CB to really get it to hug and stay inline. The inside cancels out the spin imparted on the CB after contact with the OB.
 
I call it a skid shot with a lot of spin. The cue ball slows down just as it hits the ball and the spin powers the ball in. Takes a lot of practice to know just how hard or soft to hit it. But the main thing is to aim as if you were under cutting the ball to allow for the curve of the cue ball and the fact that the spin will throw the ball down the rail. I hope this makes sense it is the best i can do to explain something that has been second nature for 50 years. I don't even think about it when i use it.
 
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