How Do YOU Make These Shots?

[drivermaker]

Can you describe your step by step thoughts and method of making these shots:

1. A spot shot...CB on head spot and OB on foot spot. How do you line it up...what do you look at...and what do you do to not scratch in the corner?

2. A spot shot...CB is 1" from the side rail. Again...how do you line it up...what do you look at...what is your success ratio out of 20 shots?

3. A combination shot...any combination at all...how do you line up the three balls and what do you look at to hit on the CB, the intermediate ball, and the object ball to the pocket?

Colin...you can chime in anytime you wish.

 

[vapoolplayer]

1st shot: (say i'm cutting to the left, and i'm using a center ball hit) i aim the one of the three lines I have broken my ferrule into the contact point (yes, you heard me, i AIM at the CONTACT point, thats what i like about the way i aim) on the object ball.

2nd shot: (again, say i'm cutting to the left, and i'm using center ball) i do the same thing as above.

3rd shot: i just find the contact point on the first ball, then according to the angle of the shot, i use whichever of the three lines in my ferrule that is appropriate for the shot.


again, i'm using a way of aiming that allows me to aim at the contact point (bascially the line to the center of the pocket) ( this is not one of hal's systems that i know of, but it seems to resemble them because you don't worry about cheating the pocket, and you can use it for MOST any shot, though you can use hal's systems for ALL shots)

alot of times, i also use CENTER TO EDGE on these shots.........but i won't go into trying to explain this.

VAP

 

[Snapshot9]

Probably...

1) I would probably use just center a little running english,
with a soft meduim stroke, probably cut left.
2) This is easy, just spot the first diamond to the
right of the corner pocket (cutting left), adjust just
slightly for being off the rail with cue ball, and shoot
it in. When I was a kid, I shot 200 spot shots in a
row trying to perfect it, and that exercise has lasted
me a lifetime. I hold the record at 1 place, making 16
in a row without missing.
3) I glance at the 1st ball, then focus in on the middle
ball and the angle it has to be cut to make the 3rd. I look
at a spot on the middle ball about the size of a 'o', and then
line up the first ball with the 'o' on the middle ball. I get my
'o' for the first ball, and I concentrate on that spot for the
combination.

 

[TATE]

3. A combination shot...any combination at all...how do you line up the three balls and what do you look at to hit on the CB, the intermediate ball, and the object ball to the pocket?

I am only going to answer on the one because it's something I have an opinion on. I grew up with straight pool. If you wanted to get high runs or sometimes any shot at all, you had to make combos. After you make enough of them you can just visualize them and "see" the shot.

Now, I'm not talking about hangers. Those are easy. I am talking about where the final object ball has to be aimed and there's some traveling and distance involved. Combo's look easy but they are very difficult shots. Even experts miss relatively "easy looking" combo's.

I've seen players try to line these up, and you definitely want to look at them from different angles, but trying to aim a combo is not the best technique.

What I do is first visualize the impact I need between the two object balls, then shoot at the first object ball to send it on that precise line. The aim required is very precise, even if you can see the shot. But the key to the shot is not the aim, it's the visualization.

If someone has good solid aim, and practices combos often enough, they will find themselves making some great ones.

Chris

 

[ceebee]

Can you describe your step by step thoughts and method of making these shots:

1. A spot shot...CB on head spot and OB on foot spot. How do you line it up...what do you look at...and what do you do to not scratch in the corner?

2. A spot shot...CB is 1" from the side rail. Again...how do you line it up...what do you look at...what is your success ratio out of 20 shots?

3. A combination shot...any combination at all...how do you line up the three balls and what do you look at to hit on the CB, the intermediate ball, and the object ball to the pocket?

Colin...you can chime in anytime you wish.

Are you asking the members of this forum to detail their process or SYSTEM of aiming, to possibly make this shot. Did you get permission for this info to be posted.....?

 

[Fred Agnir]

3. A combination shot...any combination at all...how do you line up the three balls and what do you look at to hit on the CB, the intermediate ball, and the object ball to the pocket?

I'm sure people aren't going to believe me, but I have always sucked at combos. I'd try to aim the first ball to the second ball, etc. Even close ones, close to the pocket.

Instead of all that, I use edges and centers. Maybe the spot in between. That's it. I can't do any worse than previous since I sucked so bad. But, today, I make so many, it's spooky. I'm even laughing when they go, and my opponents are swearing.

Yeah, it's voodoo magic. Someone can post the itty bitty details as to why the shot could never go. Meanwhile, I'll be aiming at edges, centers, something finite.

Fred

 

[drivermaker]

Are you asking the members of this forum to detail their process or SYSTEM of aiming, to possibly make this shot. Did you get permission for this info to be posted.....?

I doubt that very many on here have ever even read a book, let alone remember what they read to infringe on any copyright. Even if they did, it would be so bastardized that it wouldn't even sound the same.
It's like telling a joke to someone and it passes down to about 10 people...it doesn't even sound like the same joke any more.
So feel free to respond if you have something to say.

 

[BRKNRUN]

Can you describe your step by step thoughts and method of making these shots:

1. A spot shot...CB on head spot and OB on foot spot. How do you line it up...what do you look at...and what do you do to not scratch in the corner?

2. A spot shot...CB is 1" from the side rail. Again...how do you line it up...what do you look at...what is your success ratio out of 20 shots?

3. A combination shot...any combination at all...how do you line up the three balls and what do you look at to hit on the CB, the intermediate ball, and the object ball to the pocket?

Colin...you can chime in anytime you wish.

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[CaptainJR]

1. A spot shot...CB on head spot and OB on foot spot. How do you line it up...what do you look at...and what do you do to not scratch in the corner?

DM
either 1. or 2.

1. You really don't know shit about pool.

or

2. Your trying to set up a bigginer on here so that you can make fun of them.




What a ass hole.

 

[pete lafond]

1. A spot shot...CB on head spot and OB on foot spot. How do you line it up...what do you look at...and what do you do to not scratch in the corner?

-->Depending on position needed, I might follow but play the OB to the outside of the pocket giving the cue ball more room away from the corner.

2. A spot shot...CB is 1" from the side rail. Again...how do you line it up...what do you look at...what is your success ratio out of 20 shots?

--> I see the path of the OB to the pocket from the absolute pont behind the OB to the center of the pocket. Very good success

3. A combination shot...any combination at all...how do you line up the three balls and what do you look at to hit on the CB, the intermediate ball, and the object ball to the pocket?

--> added post on this one "Shooting combination shots with accuracy.. "

 

[drivermaker]

DM
either 1. or 2.

1. You really don't know shit about pool.

or

2. Your trying to set up a bigginer on here so that you can make fun of them.




What a ass hole.

1 & 2 are two totally different shots, or hasn't a moron like you never figured that out yet.

You're right...I really don't know shit about pool. I know more than you do though, which is NOTHING.

Of course I'm trying to set them up. But I don't confine it to beginners or hacks like yourself. Gawd, you're an idiot. I should have done a Mexican Hat Dance on your cap and stomped on it.

 

[Colin Colenso]

Thanks for the invite DM,

1. A spot shot...CB on head spot and OB on foot spot. How do you line it up...what do you look at...and what do you do to not scratch in the corner?

I stand behind the shot and imagine the paths of a successful shot. I bend down aligning to the line I imagined. When I'm basically in place, I make minor adjustments while feathering the cue, until I feel I will connect the OB such that it travels to the center of the pocket. I will play this shot with a touch of right. I will roll it with a touch of follow to avoid the scratch or play it with draw if I want to keep the cue ball by the bottom rail.

2. A spot shot...CB is 1" from the side rail. Again...how do you line it up...what do you look at...what is your success ratio out of 20 shots?

Same way for all my shots. My success is 80-90% in competition when practicing a lot I estimate. I've never loved cueing diagonally across the edge of a rail, sometimes messes with my alignment judgment.

3. A combination shot...any combination at all...how do you line up the three balls and what do you look at to hit on the CB, the intermediate ball, and the object ball to the pocket?

Explained in another thread that was started on this same question.

 

[RSB-Refugee]

Can you describe your step by step thoughts and method of making these shots:

OK, I'll bite.

1. A spot shot...CB on head spot and OB on foot spot. How do you line it up...what do you look at...and what do you do to not scratch in the corner?

Draw, smooth not hard, to get off the tangent line quicker.

2. A spot shot...CB is 1" from the side rail. Again...how do you line it up...what do you look at...what is your success ratio out of 20 shots?

To pocket, depends, if I am in stroke, I like it. If not it's not going to be pretty.

3. A combination shot...any combination at all...how do you line up the three balls and what do you look at to hit on the CB, the intermediate ball, and the object ball to the pocket?

Check the WEI diagram.
First thing I do, is to sight down the red line though the second ball, to the pocket. The eight is a "ghost ball", Which I do not visuallize. I then watch the contact point on the 9 as I pivot on it, until the center of the 1 ball is between it and myself. I then find the contacact point on the 1 ball. I concentrate on that spot as I rotate my position fixed on the spot until the center of the cueball is between me and the spot. I then shoot at the 1 ball with inside english. The inside english minimizes throw and impaarts inside english on the first ball which in turn reduces throw imparted on the nine. One more thing to mention, I sight with the cue ball not the cue. Sometimes when I find myself not being accurate, it is because I am aiming down the cue line. Once I focus on not doing this, the accuracy starts to improve. Also notice that in the middle of the table there is a simple non combination. In all three instances, one to nine, cue ball to the one and four to the two, the center of the ball lines up to the outer edge of the aimed at ball. The key is aim with the ball and not the stick. I know a lot of people will think this does not work. I think that, because not everyone looks at the same thing in the same way, and there never will be a consensus on the topic.
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[Celtic]

Can you describe your step by step thoughts and method of making these shots:

1. A spot shot...CB on head spot and OB on foot spot. How do you line it up...what do you look at...and what do you do to not scratch in the corner?

2. A spot shot...CB is 1" from the side rail. Again...how do you line it up...what do you look at...what is your success ratio out of 20 shots?

3. A combination shot...any combination at all...how do you line up the three balls and what do you look at to hit on the CB, the intermediate ball, and the object ball to the pocket?

Colin...you can chime in anytime you wish.

1) Say I am shooting to the left pocket. If shape was a non-issue I would probably shoot it with top left hand siding and cut it a slight bit thinner then the contact point would justify due to the spin throwing the ball a slight bit (plus the thinner cut makes the scratch not happen). With a set of brand new aramiths on new cloth I may do something else but that is a rare case. While I love to draw this shot with bottom right to miss the right hand pocket the chances of comming across and scratching in the same pocket as the pot is way to great (it is by far my most accurate way to pot the shot though).

2) Aiming at the contact point (I would the closest to a system I get is the ghost ball without actually visuallizing a ball or trying to replace that image with the cueball, I just know where the ball has to be aimed through years of shooting far too much pool). Probably just shoot it with abit of tops to come off the end rail and straight up the center of the table if shape was not an issue. I am good for 18-19/20 probably in a match situation.

3) I aim the first object ball at the contact point on the second. Generally the contact point on the second object ball becomes a microscopic pocket that makes a snooker tables pocket look gigantic. Works really well but lets not lie, combos with good distance between the balls and the pocket are tough no matter what you do.

 

[Cane]

Can you describe your step by step thoughts and method of making these shots:

1. A spot shot...CB on head spot and OB on foot spot. How do you line it up...what do you look at...and what do you do to not scratch in the corner?

Inside Small Ball to edge. Natural roll... it won't scratch, unless you hit it so hard that you scratch 3 rails in the top corner.

2. A spot shot...CB is 1" from the side rail. Again...how do you line it up...what do you look at...what is your success ratio out of 20 shots?

Center to edge... again, natural roll and it won't scratch. I practice these shots, everwhere from center table to just off the rail EVERY day... play a lot of ring games. I shoot somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 of them one handed and 50 using a normal stroke. I RARELY ever miss a spot shot on a 8' or 9' pool table with 4 9/16" or larger pockets.

3. A combination shot...any combination at all...how do you line up the three balls and what do you look at to hit on the CB, the intermediate ball, and the object ball to the pocket?

look at the required hit from the Intermediate ball to the OB... what kind of hit does it require, using 3 lines method, to pocket the OB? Look at CB to Intermediate ball, what kind of hit does it require using 3 lines, to make the Intermediate ball travel along the line it needs to in order to make the OB. Quit worrying about the OB to the pocket and make the required aim on the CB to intermediate ball.

Colin...you can chime in anytime you wish.

DM, Are Banks next? LOL I only have 4 bank shots!!!!

Later,
Bob

 

[woody_968]

My answer would be the same as Cane's on the last two. The first one (since I dont know the small ball yet) I would be using one of the three lines depending on what pocket Im shooting at.

 

[CaptainJR]

1 & 2 are two totally different shots, or hasn't a moron like you never figured that out yet.

You're right...I really don't know shit about pool. I know more than you do though, which is NOTHING.

Of course I'm trying to set them up. But I don't confine it to beginners or hacks like yourself. Gawd, you're an idiot. I should have done a Mexican Hat Dance on your cap and stomped on it.

Opps, I do have to rephrase my post. I do see how I could have been confusing. I was only talking about number 1. On the issue of shot number one. I'm give you two answers. I'll use a) and b) this time.

1. A spot shot...CB on head spot and OB on foot spot. How do you line it up...what do you look at...and what do you do to not scratch in the corner?

DM on the issue of shot 1.
either a) or b).

a) You really don't know shit about pool.

or

b) Your trying to set up a beginner on here so that you can make fun of them.


I hadn't elaborated but just to make sure I'm understood.

In shot number 1. anyone who knows anything about pool knows that this shot is not a scratch shot at all. So if you ask "how do you avoid the scratch" Ill repeat either you know nothing about pool or your trying to get someone to say they do something to avoid the scratch, they you can say they are a dummy because that was a trick question, there is no scratch.




had to edit, forgot to repeat this part.


assuming that b) is the case, what an ass hole.

 

[drivermaker]

b) Your trying to set up a beginner on here so that you can make fun of them.

there is no scratch.

Yep...you're right on Cap...and I got your dumb ass to come on as usual.

Of course there's a scratch...here, scratch this...

 

[CaptainJR]

Of course there's a scratch

Number 1 is not a scratch shot. When someone says 'that is a scratch shot' it is meant that if you hit the shot with center ball and make the shot, the cue ball will scratch. Meaning that you need to do something with the cue ball to keep it from scratching. Your shot number 1 does not scratch if shot with center ball. Anyone calling himself a pool player knows this. Of course you could scratch on this shot if you wanted to, you can do that on any shot. But this is not a "scratch shot".

I guess I was mistaken, you had me fooled. I really thought you were being an ass hole as in my b) example. Evidently it was a) you really don't know shit about pool. All this time were I've argued with you I assumed you at least knew something about the game. LOL You don't know shit.

 

[drivermaker]

Number 1 is not a scratch shot. When someone says 'that is a scratch shot' it is meant that if you hit the shot with center ball and make the shot, the cue ball will scratch. Meaning that you need to do something with the cue ball to keep it from scratching. Your shot number 1 does not scratch if shot with center ball. Anyone calling himself a pool player knows this. Of course you could scratch on this shot if you wanted to, you can do that on any shot. But this is not a "scratch shot".

I guess I was mistaken, you had me fooled. I really thought you were being an ass hole as in my b) example. Evidently it was a) you really don't know shit about pool. All this time were I've argued with you I assumed you at least knew something about the game. LOL You don't know shit.

You dumb ass...I wasn't referring to a scratch in the last post. I just wanted you to "scratch this"...........as usual......whhhhhiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrr....right over your numbskull. (it's kinda like bite me) LMAO