How long before 10-ball replaces 9-ball

How long before 10-ball replaces 9-ball?

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It seems like a lot of knowledgeable pool people would like to see 10-ball replace 9-ball. I'm not so high on the totem poll, but I'd like to see this too. What will it take for 10-ball to become more popular than 9-ball, and how long do you think it will be before it does?
 
I have never played 10 ball, is it roughly the same rules at 9 or is it something completely different? As far as replacing 9 ball, I don't know about that, 9 ball seems pretty big right now but you never know, we shall see, I am willing to try anything once.
 
Same rules as 9ball. Racked in a triangle shape. (Imagine racking all 15 balls, then take away the bottom row)
 
lifebyfire21 said:
I have never played 10 ball, is it roughly the same rules at 9 or is it something completely different? As far as replacing 9 ball, I don't know about that, 9 ball seems pretty big right now but you never know, we shall see, I am willing to try anything once.
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I haven't played it much either, but I'd like to. The rules are the same as 9-ball. My feelings are mostly based off of what I've read, and the fact that I've noticed the complaints about the 9-ball rack to be true. The main complaint being that the 9-ball rack is inherently flawed. For example, if one of the balls behind the 9 is barely not touching it, the 9 is wired to go in on the break. Also, if the balls are racked perfectly tight, the wing ball is wired to go, which makes a non-perfect rack a little unfair. I've read that this can cause a lot of arguments in high-level 9-ball, but I have not seen much of it first-hand. 10-ball may also be good for the additional run-out difficulty.
 
Although 9 ball is still the game of choice in my area, I usually suggest 10 ball to those wishing to play me. Choosing 10 ball is a no-brainer given my views on pattern racking in 9 ball. Maybe one day pattern racking will be as common place in 10 ball, but not yet to my knowledge.

Watching 9 ball played by very high calibre players with a winner break, rack-your-own format is actually pretty boring stuff.
 
Damn, I wish I had made a poll choice of "I have no idea". Now I can't vote in my own poll. LOL.
 
For B players and below... 9-ball is just fine.

For A players and above... it's nigh time for 10-ball (to replace 9-ball)... because it sure would help significantly to reduce/eliminate what I'll call...the racking wars. That... and the 10th ball will tend to slow down the break 'n runs and add more safety play early in the rack... which is goodness imo... especially for pro events.
 
Maybe it would be worth it to start really working on your 10 ball game along with the 9 ball, especially if things keep going the way it looks. I will have to rack a bunch of them up when I go to practice today, should be interesting.

So does 10 ball help eliminate the flaws associated with the 9 ball rack?
 
they dont play alot of 10 ball over here..but from what I have read there is one big difference besides the extra ball ...... call shots....all shots... or is that a house rule?
 
what will it take?

Basically someone to Offer up more money in a 10ball tournament than a 9ball tournament. Cuz its all about the money.

Or to have a Major 10ball Tour. I know the Florida Tour is popular and uses 10ball alot if not all the time, from the Video's I've seen on Propoolvideo

Personally, I love to play 10ball, making a ball on the break is actually a skill lol, plus running out is a bigger challenge.
 
smokeandapancak said:
they dont play alot of 10 ball over here..but from what I have read there is one big difference besides the extra ball ...... call shots....all shots... or is that a house rule?
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That's a house rule. 10 Ball is 9 ball + one extra ball. That's it.
 
smokeandapancak said:
they dont play alot of 10 ball over here..but from what I have read there is one big difference besides the extra ball ...... call shots....all shots... or is that a house rule?
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At the moment, there are no official call shot rules, that I know of anyway, for 10 ball. The biggest thing, in my opinion, is that it's so much harder to make a ball on the break. Takes a great deal of the advantage of breaking away. Also, the addition of the extra ball makes it harder to get out. The pattern racking thing also doesn't really affect the break, at least not yet. In my mind, ideally, 10 ball with the old two-foul pushout rules would be the ideal game of choice.
Oh, yea....5 years or LESS!!!!
 
Yeah, the way 9 ball is laid out I have only had 3 or 4 racks out of the past 50 or so that I have broke that I haven't sunk at least the wing ball on the break. Like I said, I will have to check out 10 ball, it should be a fun change of pace and I can't wait to try it out.
 
lifebyfire21 said:
Maybe it would be worth it to start really working on your 10 ball game along with the 9 ball, especially if things keep going the way it looks. I will have to rack a bunch of them up when I go to practice today, should be interesting.

So does 10 ball help eliminate the flaws associated with the 9 ball rack?
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As far as I know, it does eliminate those flaws. However, it may have some of its own flaws; I don't know. Joe Tucker's "Racking Secrets" talks about this stuff in detail, and is a great product to check out (DVD by that name, or book within the book "The Great Break Shot" by Charlie Bond ("Ceebee" on AZ)). Joe ("Joe T" on Az, I believe) shows two balls that can be "played" on a 10-ball break (in addition to the 1-ball), but they seem to be more of a skill shot compared to the wing ball in a 9-ball rack, I believe.

lifebyfire21 said:
Maybe it would be worth it to start really working on your 10 ball game along with the 9 ball, especially if things keep going the way it looks.
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Yeah! I'll have to do that too, especially after opening my big mouth and starting this thread. :o Hehe. Besides, I suppose the more we all do that, the sooner the "revolution" will come. :D
 
10 ball is not the answer

long, long sets is what the sport needs imo

matches need to be as long as championship calibre snooker matches otherwise all the little racking tricks and fluke spreads will always play a factor, be it nine ball, ten ball, or any game
 
I agree with those who feel that 10-ball is a better competitive format for upper level players. The problem, when we talk about replacing 9-ball, is not about testing competitive play. It's about marketability. After all, I believe that anyone would agree that straights is a better (perhaps the best) game for gauging who is actually playing better, particularly among the highest level players. Why did it give way to 9-ball? We all know the answer. Except for the knowledgeable fan, straight pool was boring to watch!

If we apply this logic to the dynamic between 10-ball and 9-ball, I believe that 10-ball will eventually take hold as the main game in Europe or Asia because of the obviously larger base of interested and knowledgeable TV viewers. For the public stateside, I don't believe that less runouts and more safety battles will stimulate TV viewership, and thus I can't see where the financial support will be for 10-ball in the United States. However, inasmuch as America's participation and importance in the sport continues to decline, in the next 5-10 years the preferences of the American viewing public might not really matter. The main media markets for the game are already overseas.
 
I agree, it's unfortunate that America has lost it's viewership, but when one door closes another opens, and this new Asian market is a godsend

I 'm watching more live euro/asian pool now via the internet than at any point during the 80's and 90's
 
I voted "Hopefully Never" and I'll explain-

In my opinion, although 10-ball would be an improvement over 9-ball, it's still a step in the wrong direction. If we're out to improve interest AND quality of play, we need to switch to 8-ball. It's the game of the masses and the fact is, it's a much better game.
 
i voted hopefully never, for the reason smashmouth stated. we need longer matches. it's not that i am particularly against ten ball, but it would frustrate me seeing the game being changed when we just need to extend the length of the matches.

also, 9-ball is more recognisable and iconic. you lose all that with ten ball. the fact that it's essentially the same game is irrelevant.
 
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