How long is your bridge?

I don't know how long mine is. I did not notice anyone mentioning squirt or BHE. Randy did mention "sweet spot", so maybe he was getting at this.

IMO, the more consistent your bridge length, the better. A short bridge allows for more precise tip placement, especially since there are very few perfect strokes in the world. Even if someone does have a perfect stroke, different length bridges make the cue ball react differently.

The more constants you put into your mechanics, the easier it is for your subconcious to make all the right adjustments.

Tracy
 
"Long" or "short" are pretty relative terms. What do they mean in terms of stroke mechanics?

A "short" bridge is one in which the tip contacts the cue ball before the player's natural stroke is completed, and a "long" bridge is one in which the player must extend his natural stroke to reach the cue ball.

Both actions are unnatural, requiring conscious effort. Conscious effort is Incorrect Thinking that causes one to stray from the Four-Bank Path to Enlightenment. So, short or long bridges introduce the potential for error into one's shot.

What is the bridge length of a player's "natural stroke"? It corresponds quite closely to the length of a player's hand, measured from the hand's junction with the wrist to the tip of the middle finger. In my case, that length is 7.5 inches.

Some of us may recall that this metric is also used to estimate penis size. Hence, the term, "natural stroke". The Four-Bank Path to Enlightenment and Correct Thinking weaves its way through all aspects of Life. :cool:

Women's natural stroke and bridge lengths are developed through their life experiences.
 
Dhakala said:
What is the bridge length of a player's "natural stroke"? It corresponds quite closely to the length of a player's hand, measured from the hand's junction with the wrist to the tip of the middle finger. In my case, that length is 7.5 inches.
That makes no sense to me. Maybe it is just a coincidence.

I think each player has a bridge length that works best for them. Cues also have a bridge length that is best suited to them. If the cues harmonics do not match the players bridge length, then the player will probably never get the most out of that cue, unless they adapt to it.

Tracy
 
Dhakala[/quote said:
What is the bridge length of a player's "natural stroke"? It corresponds quite closely to the length of a player's hand, measured from the hand's junction with the wrist to the tip of the middle finger. In my case, that length is 7.5 inches.

RSB-Refugee said:
That makes no sense to me. Maybe it is just a coincidence.

Things need not be comprehensible in order to be true. Observe reality and accept it. "Sense" may come later, or not. It doesn't matter.

I think each player has a bridge length that works best for them. Cues also have a bridge length that is best suited to them. If the cues harmonics do not match the players bridge length, then the player will probably never get the most out of that cue, unless they adapt to it.

What do you mean by "harmonics," and how do they determine a cue's ideal bridge length?

What does a disharmonious bridge length do to degrade a player's performance?

What, in the player, can be adapted to the cue's harmonically determined ideal bridge length?

How can a player select a cue whose harmonics determine a bridge length that "works best for him;" that is, his natural bridge length?
 
Dhakala said:
What do you mean by "harmonics," and how do they determine a cue's ideal bridge length?
If you make a tubular chime, hanging it from different points will yield differnt tones some of them are very dull and some are bell like. Many people say "the hit" of a cue equals the sound it makes.
Dhakala said:
What does a disharmonious bridge length do to degrade a player's performance?
A cue that may have a great hit, if bridged at a bad length, may have a less bright tone.
Dhakala said:
What, in the player, can be adapted to the cue's harmonically determined ideal bridge length?
The player's bridge length.
Dhakala said:
How can a player select a cue whose harmonics determine a bridge length that "works best for him;" that is, his natural bridge length?
By testing cues untill the player finds the cue that is best matched to him.

Some of what I have written may not make sense to you but, things need not be comprehensible in order to be true. Observe reality and accept it. "Sense" may come later, or not. It doesn't matter. ;)

Tracy
 
RSB-Refugee said:
If you make a tubular chime, hanging it from different points will yield differnt tones some of them are very dull and some are bell like. Many people say "the hit" of a cue equals the sound it makes.

A cue that may have a great hit, if bridged at a bad length, may have a less bright tone.

And the tone of the cue affects the result of the shot how?

Some of what I have written may not make sense to you but, things need not be comprehensible in order to be true. Observe reality and accept it. "Sense" may come later, or not. It doesn't matter. ;)

My copyright attorney will be in touch. ;)
 
Dhakala said:
And the tone of the cue affects the result of the shot how?
I don't know, it just does. When the tone is right, the cue just seems alive, like a part of you.


Dhakala said:
My copyright attorney will be in touch. ;)
Better to call a professional turnip squeezer. :rolleyes:

Tracy
 
Originally Posted by Dhakala: "And the tone of the cue affects the result of the shot how?"

RSB-Refugee said:
I don't know, it just does. When the tone is right, the cue just seems alive, like a part of you.

So, you believe that bridging the cue at one of its harmonic points, at the moment of impact with the CB, produces a "bright tone" that helps the cue "come alive" and become "a part of you", the player.

That's very Zen, Tracy! :cool:


Note that the sound does not cause this aliveness or oneness, for it occurs after the tip impacts the cue ball. The sound is feedback, indicating whether or not your bridge was at the ideal point upon impact.

Instead, it is all the positioning of body and cue preceding the shot that results in the tip contacting the cue ball at the instant the bridge is at the cue's harmonic point. That body-cue arrangement before the impact is the feng shui which favors success.

Somewhere, I have seen a high-speed video of a vibrating cue shaft, clearly showing its harmonic nodes - the points at which it is not vibrating while the rest of it is vibrating. The first node, nearest the tip, was indeed in the range of plausible penis lengths. Dennis Dieckman, cue builder, seems to corroborate my observation:

A pool cue should have a moderate to severe quiver in it when held, lightly, in the left hand, about 8"-12" from the rear, and then struck, lightly with the palm of the right hand. One should observe not only the overall quiver of the butt but also just how much the tip moves off center in this process. One might even listen for the HARMONIC VIBRATION that this striking of the cue produces, both its TONE and DURATION. AGAIN, To hear this HARMONIC VIBRATION best the cue must be held very lightly in one hand, AND AT A VERY CERTAIN POINT that is different for each cue and then struck very lightly with the palm of the other hand. Holding it close to your ear while you do this also helps !!

We can unify our respective theories by hypothesizing that one's bridge should be at the point of a cue's first harmonic node, and that node should be at the distance from the cue tip which is equal to the length of the player's "natural stroke," as determined by the length of his penis or the length of penises with which she is experienced.
 
Dhakala said:
Originally Posted by Dhakala: "And the tone of the cue affects the result of the shot how?"



So, you believe that bridging the cue at one of its harmonic points, at the moment of impact with the CB, produces a "bright tone" that helps the cue "come alive" and become "a part of you", the player.

That's very Zen, Tracy! :cool:


Note that the sound does not cause this aliveness or oneness, for it occurs after the tip impacts the cue ball. The sound is feedback, indicating whether or not your bridge was at the ideal point upon impact.

Instead, it is all the positioning of body and cue preceding the shot that results in the tip contacting the cue ball at the instant the bridge is at the cue's harmonic point. That body-cue arrangement before the impact is the feng shui which favors success.

Somewhere, I have seen a high-speed video of a vibrating cue shaft, clearly showing its harmonic nodes - the points at which it is not vibrating while the rest of it is vibrating. The first node, nearest the tip, was indeed in the range of plausible penis lengths. Dennis Dieckman, cue builder, seems to corroborate my observation:

A pool cue should have a moderate to severe quiver in it when held, lightly, in the left hand, about 8"-12" from the rear, and then struck, lightly with the palm of the right hand. One should observe not only the overall quiver of the butt but also just how much the tip moves off center in this process. One might even listen for the HARMONIC VIBRATION that this striking of the cue produces, both its TONE and DURATION. AGAIN, To hear this HARMONIC VIBRATION best the cue must be held very lightly in one hand, AND AT A VERY CERTAIN POINT that is different for each cue and then struck very lightly with the palm of the other hand. Holding it close to your ear while you do this also helps !!

We can unify our respective theories by hypothesizing that one's bridge should be at the point of a cue's first harmonic node, and that node should be at the distance from the cue tip which is equal to the length of the player's "natural stroke," as determined by the length of his penis or the length of penises with which she is experienced.
I don't know about all this zen stuff. You are right about the vibration being feedback. With constant bridge length, the feedback along with visual feedback can give you better information as to how you and the cue are cooperating to get desired results. In zen archery, does exact repetition allow the shooter to attain greater accuracy? I mean, they pull the bow back to exactly the same point, on every shot, right? The left arm is probably in the exact same position also. If every part of the body is not exactly positioned, one can never learn to truly trust their eyes.

Tracy
 
RSB-Refugee said:
I don't know about all this zen stuff.

Well, you certainly seem able and willing to learn, or I wouldn't be spending this much time with you. :)

In zen archery, does exact repetition allow the shooter to attain greater accuracy?

Indeed, and a lifetime of repetitions is required! Upon many of the stands that hold the mato (target for advanced kyudo students) is inscribed the Japanese proverb,

"Thousands of repetitions and out of one's true self perfection emerges."
 
Dhakala said:
Well, you certainly seem able and willing to learn, or I wouldn't be spending this much time with you. :)



Indeed, and a lifetime of repetitions is required! Upon many of the stands that hold the mato (target for advanced kyudo students) is inscribed the Japanese proverb,

"Thousands of repetitions and out of one's true self perfection emerges."
Maybe, there is something to this zen, you speak of. I am not looking for a religion, is zen a religion?

Tracy
 
RSB-Refugee said:
Maybe, there is something to this zen, you speak of. I am not looking for a religion, is zen a religion?

Tracy

Have you not clicked the link I provided YET, Tracy? :mad:

Besides, it wouldn't matter. One needn't be religious to learn from religions.
 
Dhakala said:
Have you not clicked the link I provided YET, Tracy? :mad:

Besides, it wouldn't matter. One needn't be religious to learn from religions.
Relax. I have to leave for work, in five minutes. I'll look at it later, when I have more time.

Tracy
 
RSB-Refugee said:
Relax. I have to leave for work, in five minutes. I'll look at it later, when I have more time.

Tracy

Good. Iook forward to seeing what you learn when you have time.

If one considered Zen a religion, it would be the most reality-based religion, by far.
 
How Long Is Your Bridge?

I believe that was the title of this thread. Although there is some really good observations made here, it appears that some of these posts are designed to impress others with one's worldliness.

I'm a proponent of the k.i.s.s. system. Keep it simple stupid! Better to explain things in a clear concise manner that the average student of the game can grasp easily.

Hall Of Famer Lou Butera said it best many years ago. "Pool is a game of Stances and Bridges" were his words. My interpretation of this simple statement is that while playing Pool, we must stand in various ways and bridge in a variety of ways to execute each shot. This is part of the beauty of the game.

There is no one correct stance or one correct bridge. We must develop the ability to adapt our stance and bridge to the shot at hand. I hope this is clear enough for all reading it. Thanks
 
jay helfert said:
I believe that was the title of this thread.

Yes, Jay, and it was followed by other questions found in the body of the original post:

Does it change depending where you are aiming on the cue ball? (Top, Bottom, Side.) Why do you bridge that length. Why do you not bridge other lengths? What are the positives, and negatives of shorter, or long bridges?

I'm a proponent of the k.i.s.s. system. Keep it simple stupid!

There's nothing simpler than, "Your bridge length should be the length of your hand."

Better to explain things in a clear concise manner that the average student of the game can grasp easily.

Uhhuh... "easy" beats correct for the lazy. Like the "easy" way to detect a double-hit - by the "clunk" it makes. :rolleyes:
 
RSB-Refugee said:
I don't know, it just does. When the tone is right, the cue just seems alive, like a part of you.
Natural harmonics and nodal points. Acoustics and vibration 101, I guess.

Fred
 
CantEverWin said:
How long is your bridge? Does it change depending where you are aiming on the cue ball? (Top, Bottom, Side.) Why do you bridge that length. Why do you not bridge other lengths?

What are the positives, and negatives of shorter, or long bridges?

Mike
My bridge length varies with the shot. I don't measure it. So, I'm anywhere from a couple of inches to a foot and a half. Some shots, I bridge long, but stroke short. My hands just fall where they want to or need to.

Fred
 
Dhakala said:
Yes, Jay, and it was followed by other questions found in the body of the original post:

Does it change depending where you are aiming on the cue ball? (Top, Bottom, Side.) Why do you bridge that length. Why do you not bridge other lengths? What are the positives, and negatives of shorter, or long bridges?



There's nothing simpler than, "Your bridge length should be the length of your hand."



Uhhuh... "easy" beats correct for the lazy. Like the "easy" way to detect a double-hit - by the "clunk" it makes. :rolleyes:


David, I would have bet a million dollars that you would respond to my post, and try to pick it apart. Your brilliance is only exceeded by your ego.

Put that in your Zen pipe and smoke it.
 
jay helfert said:
David, I would have bet a million dollars that you would respond to my post, and try to pick it apart.

"Do, or do not. There is no try." ~ Master Yoda.

Jay, you said nothing more than, "Everyone has to do what works best for him." That's about as KISS - "Keeping It Stupid & Silly" - as advice can be.
 
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