How many days are in a week?
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Renegade said:which translates to 83,000 dollars for the IPT. not bad.....
Can't find my calculater....at this rate how many qualifiers are required to cover their financial obligation from Reno? How long will it take at 10 qualifiers p/wk?
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Timberly said:Yeah but I don't recall ever seeing two players match up when one of the players knew, or at least suspected that the other was firing air...
I don't know about the other, but the other had 10 000$ from N/A-Open, so I think with that money it wa a good deal (bet). We should remember, that you, as being pessimistic, might be very very wrong, as you have in the past all the time..
I don't know what will happen, as I cannot see the future, but I surely wish (and slightly believe also) that the IPT will go on even there's some difficulties on the way and lot's of small spirited idiots singing negative mantras and trying to get some twisted satisfaction for their sad lives..
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I'm on here typing on my own behalf... my friend has nothing do with it and his name needs not be mentioned....
And, I live day to da, not check to check, or week to week.. day to day...
And, I live day to da, not check to check, or week to week.. day to day...
ribdoner said:
Pretty long, since most of those entering already had free entries or just had to make up the $500 difference.
Wow, there is a lot of stupidity in this thread. Whatever the case may be, this is seriously damaging for the IPT.
Word spreads like wild fire in the pool world. No pay for Reno will directly translate into miserable qualifier turnouts.
We all know the IPT uses the qualifiers as an important source of income due to the large entry fees and the IPT's constant reminding of members that they get referal kickbacks for getting players to play in qualifiers.
Who the hell is going to dish out $2,000 just to play in a tournament to qualifer for another tournament, in which they'd have to come in top 50 to get on a tour that, as of right now, might not exist.
Sound extreme? Not a chance. When payment is an issue, especially when the backer of the IPT is a billionaire and made it a HUGE point that this would be different and no one would get ripped off...it is more damaging than having never made such claims.
I heard his entire player's meeting audio from their website. 100 sponsors lined up? Internet subcribers? TV deals? ...not to mention his own personal fortune. WHY CAN'T THEY JUST PAY!!!!
If this was truly a matter of the IRS or whatever, then they'd at least make this clear to the players. The conflicting statements, missed deadlines and silence (or lack of a definate reason) is not inspire confidence....
Word spreads like wild fire in the pool world. No pay for Reno will directly translate into miserable qualifier turnouts.
We all know the IPT uses the qualifiers as an important source of income due to the large entry fees and the IPT's constant reminding of members that they get referal kickbacks for getting players to play in qualifiers.
Who the hell is going to dish out $2,000 just to play in a tournament to qualifer for another tournament, in which they'd have to come in top 50 to get on a tour that, as of right now, might not exist.
Sound extreme? Not a chance. When payment is an issue, especially when the backer of the IPT is a billionaire and made it a HUGE point that this would be different and no one would get ripped off...it is more damaging than having never made such claims.
I heard his entire player's meeting audio from their website. 100 sponsors lined up? Internet subcribers? TV deals? ...not to mention his own personal fortune. WHY CAN'T THEY JUST PAY!!!!
If this was truly a matter of the IRS or whatever, then they'd at least make this clear to the players. The conflicting statements, missed deadlines and silence (or lack of a definate reason) is not inspire confidence....
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I agree that there are some that would get satisfaction if the IPT were to fail, esp those within the industry that KT has snubbed. I assure you that I am not one of those people. I would love nothing more than to be wrong about some of the things that I've said and I would love nothing more than for this tour to succeed. Due to the actions of the IPT themselves (no one else is to blame) I don't have a warm fuzzy feeling about things. When the IPT conducts themselves in a professional and honest manner, I'll be one of the first in line to become their cheerleader. I will always be the type of person to call things as I see them and if I see things incorrectly, I'll also be the 1st person to say so and apologize.Marvel said:I don't know about the other, but the other had 10 000$ from N/A-Open, so I think with that money it wa a good deal (bet). We should remember, that you, as being pessimistic, might be very very wrong, as you have in the past all the time..LOL, I take it you don't like me too much Marvel. It's ok, no one says we have to like everyone.
I don't know what will happen, as I cannot see the future, but I surely wish (and slightly believe also) that the IPT will go on even there's some difficulties on the way and lot's of small spirited idiots singing negative mantras and trying to get some twisted satisfaction for their sad lives..
Communication is the key and regarding payments it has been either poor, non existing, or just plain mis-leading.
If the IPT is to be successful this will definately need to improve.
However everyone that wants the tour to succeed needs to remain positive, surely it is good that Thorsten Hohman has been paid the $350,000 a company about to pull the plug would not have made this payment.
Lets just hope everyone is paid in the next week or so and that the schedules, intentions for next year (prize money most importantly) are finalised so that players/backers etc can make firm plans and start playing qualifiers again with confidence.
If the IPT is to be successful this will definately need to improve.
However everyone that wants the tour to succeed needs to remain positive, surely it is good that Thorsten Hohman has been paid the $350,000 a company about to pull the plug would not have made this payment.
Lets just hope everyone is paid in the next week or so and that the schedules, intentions for next year (prize money most importantly) are finalised so that players/backers etc can make firm plans and start playing qualifiers again with confidence.
thefifteen said:
Agreed, communication is the key at this point. The lack of it is deafning and getting louder as each day passes. There comes a point within each structure when someone has to take the bull by the horns and say, "stop the madness".
It is good that Thorsten has been paid. He dserves it. It does add to the confusion though. What exactly is the intention of the IPT.
Much damage has been done. Much doubt has been created. With payment, will this doubt go away, or will there be the "until next time attitude"? That is hard to say.
Mr. Andrews is logged into these forums almost daily and not even a peep. Is there no pride of ownership? Is their attitude that "screw them , they are only pool players and they have gotten more than they deserve already". Nobody knows, rumors are abundant, and speculations fly when there is no communication.
The IPT came aboard and asked the whole world, not just the players, to watch the greatest thing that has ever happened to the game. Real Pool, real rules, and real money. Now, the phone lines have been cut except for those who still ante up for the qualifiers. Now they are getting even worse qualifier results, because, there are even more "wheres my check questions" and no communication.
Maybe some would in some way would wish for the IPT failure. By and largely I feel most want it too work and impact the game so many love and are obsessed with. Many who have stood on this forum and defended it so bravely are begining to waver and who can blame them. They have fewer and fewer stars to cling to. I feel badly for them.
Why is there no communication? Is there no pride?
Timberly said:
Howdy,
I don't know how the get the earlier quote to my post, but I apologize for my careless statement.
When I said "YOU have been wrong all the time in the past", I didn't mean only YOU, Timberly, I meant all the critical pessimistic in this Forum. I don't have time nor interest to start to list and copy all the earlier negative statements about IPT, which IPT succeeed to prove to be wrong. Now I really hope they will succeed to prove, that YOU were wrong again (all of you - considering IPT)..
sidepocketkid said:
Sidepocketkid, apparently you are one, a kid that is! I have been tied up for a few days and missed this post, but I am on it now! With you 8 post's so far in our family forum, let me be the first to ask you to reframe from challenging respected members.
First, you are making an ass of yourself.. Let me explain. Deno nor Kevin I can assure you have never ever moved a Diamond Pool Table or Plasma TV. I about fell out of my chair when I red that! You actually think they did the moving? Are you serious? lololololololo Stop me someone please! This kid is killing me!
Second, Referring to your smarty comment regarding how much the pay outs would be: There is something called a calculator which an accountant uses, which the IPT supposedly has several on call to do the "payout's" with.
Third, Don't ever get smart with Timberly or anyone else on this forum again.
Okay Kid!
Bottom line...
There is absolutely no excuse for not paying the players on a timely basis
at the end of tournament as was planned...PERIOD!
Missing money, missing checks, missing pen to sign the checks...new billionaire owner...cancelled London tourney due to a lack of venue....blah blah blah.
If it looks and smells like sh-t it is sh-t. Looks like the party is over.
ruk
There is absolutely no excuse for not paying the players on a timely basis
at the end of tournament as was planned...PERIOD!
Missing money, missing checks, missing pen to sign the checks...new billionaire owner...cancelled London tourney due to a lack of venue....blah blah blah.
If it looks and smells like sh-t it is sh-t. Looks like the party is over.
ruk
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Timberly
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14 days and counting...rukiddingme said:There is absolutely no excuse for not paying the players on a timely basis
at the end of tournament as was planned...PERIOD!
Missing money, missing checks, missing pen to sign the checks...new billionaire owner...cancelled London tourney due to a lack of venue....blah blah blah.
If it looks and smells like sh-t it is sh-t. Looks like the party is over.
ruk