how many different pieces in a cue?

desi2960

desi2960

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in prathers parts catalogue they have a diagram of a cue and the parts listed are as follows, tip, tip pad, ferrule, shaft, decor rings, joint rings, brass insert, joint screw, stainless steel joint, joint rings, decor rings, forearm,a joint screw, prong, veneer, prong inlays, intermediate decor ring, linen wrap, butt decor ring, butt piece, butt inlays butt decor ring butt cap, weight bolt, rubber bumper, bumper screw. Now depending on how many inlays you choose to use the number of parts in a cue could reach in the hundreds. So i decided to see what was the lease number of parts i could use to build a 2 piece cue. The number is 4. photos are of the cue i now am using for my personal cue. the parts are a tip, a tip pad, a shaft and the butt. just for fun, chuck starkey
 

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It's kind of cool

Very interesting cue you got there Chuck.

Tell us more about it.

How long is it?
What does it weigh?
What kind of wood is the butt?
How does it play?
Do you like it?
If you made one to sell what would you charge?


TIA.........Paul
 
I love it. That is a very nice cue!:thumbup:
What is the wood used?

Only one thing......you probably could have skipped the pad and made it with three parts.:)

Terry
 
wood to wood

Now that is what I call a wood to wood joint!

Nice looking cue and I suspect it is about as close to a one piece feel as you can get. I like the pilot as part of the pin. I leave G-10 pins a little long for the same reason.

Hu
 
spects

the butt is rosewood, the shaft is recycled from a old brunswick one piece. the cue is 18 1/2 oz with a balance point of 18 inches from the butt. cue is 58 inches long. it has very solid hit with lot of feedback. the tip is a new moori [ wish i could find something like the old moori's ]. using the 1/2 by 8 pin that makes the walls of the shaft are so thin and having no rings to help protect them, i would not feel comfortable selling this cue. i have treated the butt of the shaft and see no problems at this time, but i have only played a week with this cue and would not sell anything i could not guarantee. chuck
 
Just in case you change your mind, I'm all ears. :wink:

desi2960 said:
the butt is rosewood, the shaft is recycled from a old brunswick one piece. the cue is 18 1/2 oz with a balance point of 18 inches from the butt. cue is 58 inches long. it has very solid hit with lot of feedback. the tip is a new moori [ wish i could find something like the old moori's ]. using the 1/2 by 8 pin that makes the walls of the shaft are so thin and having no rings to help protect them, i would not feel comfortable selling this cue. i have treated the butt of the shaft and see no problems at this time, but i have only played a week with this cue and would not sell anything i could not guarantee. chuck
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pin in shaft?

desi2960 said:
the butt is rosewood, the shaft is recycled from a old brunswick one piece. the cue is 18 1/2 oz with a balance point of 18 inches from the butt. cue is 58 inches long. it has very solid hit with lot of feedback. the tip is a new moori [ wish i could find something like the old moori's ]. using the 1/2 by 8 pin that makes the walls of the shaft are so thin and having no rings to help protect them, i would not feel comfortable selling this cue. i have treated the butt of the shaft and see no problems at this time, but i have only played a week with this cue and would not sell anything i could not guarantee. chuck
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Have you considered making the pin part of the shaft? Not the thing that is in style but a better design from an engineering standpoint. Been thinking about some different looking cues myself and one of the things I would do is put the pin in the shaft.

Hu
 
Question again?

desi2960 said:
the butt is rosewood, the shaft is recycled from a old brunswick one piece. the cue is 18 1/2 oz with a balance point of 18 inches from the butt. cue is 58 inches long. it has very solid hit with lot of feedback. the tip is a new moori [ wish i could find something like the old moori's ]. using the 1/2 by 8 pin that makes the walls of the shaft are so thin and having no rings to help protect them, i would not feel comfortable selling this cue. i have treated the butt of the shaft and see no problems at this time, but i have only played a week with this cue and would not sell anything i could not guarantee. chuck
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Thanks Chuck. Not talking about this cue in particular or the idea that the walls being thin make you uncomfortable selling one. But if you were to make one to sell. What would be a reasonable price?

Paul
 
desi2960 said:
the butt is rosewood, the shaft is recycled from a old brunswick one piece. the cue is 18 1/2 oz with a balance point of 18 inches from the butt. cue is 58 inches long. it has very solid hit with lot of feedback. the tip is a new moori [ wish i could find something like the old moori's ]. using the 1/2 by 8 pin that makes the walls of the shaft are so thin and having no rings to help protect them, i would not feel comfortable selling this cue. i have treated the butt of the shaft and see no problems at this time, but i have only played a week with this cue and would not sell anything i could not guarantee. chuck
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Hi Chuck; That butt sure looks like Bacote...JER
 
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Cool cue Chuck. I like it. Like you mentioned, the only thing I'd worry about is the thin walls of the shaft. I only say that because I made a sneaky with a 3/8-10 and no rings to see what would happen. It probably would have lasted forever just playing but I was breaking too. Eventually it went. I now use a pheonelic insert in the shaft but that would be an extra part;)
 
CamposCues said:
Cool cue Chuck. I like it. Like you mentioned, the only thing I'd worry about is the thin walls of the shaft. I only say that because I made a sneaky with a 3/8-10 and no rings to see what would happen. It probably would have lasted forever just playing but I was breaking too. Eventually it went. I now use a pheonelic insert in the shaft but that would be an extra part;)
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Your comment got me to thinking about reversing the joint. Do you think it would make any difference in the way the cue played if the shaft had the male thread and the butt the female?
 
Paul Mon said:
Your comment got me to thinking about reversing the joint. Do you think it would make any difference in the way the cue played if the shaft had the male thread and the butt the female?
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I don't think it would change the way it played. There were and are cue makers who put the pin in the shaft. I had a Heubler sneaky pete like that a while ago. It will make it more challenging to add a second shaft later, like an ob or predator.
 
Paul Mon said:
Your comment got me to thinking about reversing the joint. Do you think it would make any difference in the way the cue played if the shaft had the male thread and the butt the female?
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Take a look at the Longoni cues.....they seem to think it makes some difference.:)
 
CamposCues said:
I don't think it would change the way it played. There were and are cue makers who put the pin in the shaft. I had a Heubler sneaky pete like that a while ago. It will make it more challenging to add a second shaft later, like an ob or predator.
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I was only thinking in regards to making this cue stronger. Putting the female thread in the butt allows for a thicker wall than the shaft would have.
 
i think the same

i believe if the pin were in the shaft, the cue should play the same. but many of the cheap imports of yesteryear had the pin in the shaft, so a pin in the shaft makes people think cheap.
 
me too

jer, i think it looks like bocote, but i bought the wood from a reputable dealer and he says its rosewood. bty is bocote not a rosewood?
 
desi2960 said:
jer, i think it looks like bocote, but i bought the wood from a reputable dealer and he says its rosewood. bty is bocote not a rosewood?
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I am not Jer, but rosewood is Dalbergia genus. Bocote is Cordia genus, same genus as zircote and a few other woods.

They are not even in the same family, the division one above genus. Cordia is in the Boraginaceae family, and Dalbergia is in the Fabaceae family.

Kelly
 
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