How much weight can be removed, if any?

BillPorter

BillPorter

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I have a Josey sneaky that weighs about 19.3 oz. There is no weight bolt, but there is a hole for a weight bolt. I am used to playing with cues that weigh between 18.5 oz. and 19.0 oz. I am wondering if a cue maker/cue repair person could reduce the weight of the butt a bit, and if so, how much could the weight be reduced? Thanks in advance for your reply!:)
 
BillPorter said:
I have a Josey sneaky that weighs about 19.3 oz. There is no weight bolt, but there is a hole for a weight bolt. I am used to playing with cues that weigh between 18.5 oz. and 19.0 oz. I am wondering if a cue maker/cue repair person could reduce the weight of the butt a bit, and if so, how much could the weight be reduced? Thanks in advance for your reply!:)
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Bill,
Joss weight bolts are usually installed pretty deep into the cue. 8 inches or so,
get a long thin screw-driver and check"
the weight in Joss is usually an allen head all-thread design...when you remove the rubber bumper you only see a hollow hole, but further inside the cue is where they put the weight bolt' Probably so a cue wont feel butt-heavy":confused:
 
Duane remick said:
Bill,
Joss weight bolts are usually installed pretty deep into the cue. 8 inches or so,
get a long thin screw-driver and check"
the weight in Joss is usually an allen head all-thread design...when you remove the rubber bumper you only see a hollow hole, but further inside the cue is where they put the weight bolt' Probably so a cue wont feel butt-heavy":confused:
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Actually, the cue I am referring to is a Keith Josey cue, not a Joss. But I did look down into the weight bolt hole, and it looks like there is something metal down at the bottom of the hole. No place for an Allen wrench or screw drive slot though.
 
BillPorter said:
Actually, the cue I am referring to is a Keith Josey cue, not a Joss. But I did look down into the weight bolt hole, and it looks like there is something metal down at the bottom of the hole. No place for an Allen wrench or screw drive slot though.
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If there is a weight bolt, there should be a slot, an allen, a hex, or a phillips head for it to have been installed. Otherwise, how would it have been threaded into the butt of the cue (assuming it is threaded of course)?

In the past I have reduced the weight of a cue by drilling the hole deeper. You might reduce yours by the .3 ounce, or might not. Depends entirely on the density of the wood and the size of the hole.

As a general rule, it's better to ask the original maker to do repairs/modifications like this. He knows the cue's history best.
 
BillPorter said:
I have a Josey sneaky that weighs about 19.3 oz. There is no weight bolt, but there is a hole for a weight bolt. I am used to playing with cues that weigh between 18.5 oz. and 19.0 oz. I am wondering if a cue maker/cue repair person could reduce the weight of the butt a bit, and if so, how much could the weight be reduced? Thanks in advance for your reply!:)
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On a Josey SP,at least the newer ones the weight bolt,if one,will be pretty deep in the hole and can be removed with a long handled hex wrench.
 
BillPorter said:
I have a Josey sneaky that weighs about 19.3 oz. There is no weight bolt, but there is a hole for a weight bolt. I am used to playing with cues that weigh between 18.5 oz. and 19.0 oz. I am wondering if a cue maker/cue repair person could reduce the weight of the butt a bit, and if so, how much could the weight be reduced? Thanks in advance for your reply!:)
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Hello Bill, I do not know what type or size pin is currently installed in the cue. However, in the past I have reduced the weight up to a 1/2 oz of cues without weight bolts by removing the pin if it is Stainless Steel. I have then replaced it with either a Titanium pin or the G-10 Epoxy pin.

I do not recommend allowing anyone to drill into the butt to remove additional wood. This can effect the structural integrity of the in many negative ways.

Hope this helps, and have a great night Bill!!!!!!
 
Simple answer... If there is a bolt in there, it uses a 3/16 hex. Get yourself a 7" long 3/16 T-handled hex wrench from your local hardware store. If you can not find one, you can get one from Atlas for about $5.00.
 
Thanks to all who replied - bottom line; I am an idiot

OK, there WAS a weight bolt, just fairly deep into the butt and I didn't see it upon casual observation. I took the cue to Dick Neighbors in Cincinnati, and he quickly pulled out a one ounce weight bolt and replaced it with a lighter bolt. The whole operation took about 4 minutes and my problem was solved!
 
Glad you got it fixed Bill! :)
I was about to suggest my helium filled cue concept, but exchanging the weight bolt is the easy way to go..... :eek:
Chuck
 
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